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24/7, incontinence-desires and incontinence Baby 06/08/2020 (Mon) 02:50:45 No. 313
Anons wear 24/7 for different reasons: some have actual incontinence issues (please be kind to them), some *want* to untrain themselves and become incontinent, and some want to wear alone, not use them. Some want a diagnosis from a doctor to make it 'official', some want to 'come out' as incontinent to others and live like one (such as Kali or Serah), whereas for others it's more personal. There are lots of different reasons to wear 24/7. This thread is meant to be a resource for 24/7 wearers and untrainers, where we can collate all our collected knowledge. I'm also interested in medical articles, and so on: there is some medical evidence in favour of the idea catheterisation can cause a shrinked bladder and OAB, because one never has to wait to reach the bathroom. Could 24/7 have similar effects; is there a scientific background for what we do, or is it BS? >Do you wear 24/7, if so, how long? >What got you interested in 24/7, and more generally ABDL? Do you consider yourself leaning towards AB or DL especially? >Do you want to untrain? How will you/have you done so? >Who knows you wear 24/7? >If you untrained, do you honestly regret it? How has your mood about it progressed since you started? >If you don't wear 24/7, would you like to? Why/why not?
>>2180 >Shitting yourself around people you know isn't great I would not mind that. :) >or get a diagnosis of incontinence Could you fake it? To get free money? Probably depends on country right >(at least in Europe). You are from eastern eu? (i am)
>>2188 >I would not mind that I mean, I would not mind if somebody sh*t himself while being around me. As long as he (or she) is wearing diaper . The smell from used diaper does not bother me either. But just farting into pants / underwear is absolutely repulsive for me. Weird that I can tolerate farting into diaper but not farting into pants.
>>2188 >I would not mind that. :) Good, because not having too much a sense of modesty about toilet stuff is a prerequisite :) >Could you fake it? To get free money? Probably depends on country right Yes. depends completely on country. Some countries will pay for "incontinence pads" ie diapers. I dont know them all. I know that Australia, new zealand, France, UK, Spain, and Nordics do. But you have to get diagnosed by a doctor. My Aussie friend told me in Aus you just get free money that you can spend on anything (but they can audit you and make sure you use it for proper purpose if they want). In other countries the health service prescribes diapers, and you get whatever brand you are given >You are from eastern eu? Western Eu. Not saying where because I don't want to be tracked >>2190 >I mean, I would not mind if somebody sh*t himself while being around me. As long as he (or she) is wearing diaper . The smell from used diaper does not bother me either. Well, I mean a lot of people are like that. Diapers are something medical so shitting into it will be excused by most people. Just my experience
>>2180 >>2180 Why don't you catheterize?
>>2180 Has the sacral nerve damage caused sexual dysfunction?
>>2180 How did you end up with that kind of damage just from falling? Was this like falling off a ladder, or tripping on the sidewalk? Do you not have any awareness over when you need to go, or just cant control it? What does that do to an 11 year old kid mentally? Sounds like it would be potentially devastating, but I hope it wasn't as bad as it might seem somehow.
>>2205 >Diapers are something medical so shitting into it will be excused by most people. Just my experience Holy wtf based
What do y'all do about diapers for exercising? I ride my bike a lot and while I can do it in a megamax it's easier if I'm wearing a pullup. Wanted to try ordering some gosupremes but they're like $1.50 each which seems like a waste for something I'll wear for maybe an hour. Are there better budget options? Should I just buy some normal cloth backed diapers?
discord?
>>2253 >Why don't you catheterize? Physically uncomfortable, risk of UTIs, but mainly because it's psychologically difficult, owing to a traumatic procedure which involved one I had when I was about 5. I didn't want whatever the nurse was doing so I got restrained. Catheters make me shiver now, even seeing one tbh. Doctors in general don't mind if patients manage with 'incontinence containment pads' rather than catheters, so long as you make clear it's your decision and not just because you don't know there are other options (as many patients have no idea there are options beyond just diapers) >>2265 >Has the sacral nerve damage caused sexual dysfunction? Unfortunately it has somewhat, but it's not too bad. In general I would call my sexual function "inconsistent". My girlfriend has been understanding about it. Once you've dealt with it for long enough, you work out strategies and ways and routines--for instance, using a vibrator, which has a very strong effect on me now--so it's not as bad as it was at first. >How did you end up with that kind of damage just from falling? Was this like falling off a ladder, or tripping on the sidewalk? I managed to fall while playing in the playground, but not in any spectacular way lol. Just an unlucky way. I can remember the pain being quite bad and being convinced I must have been bleeding or badly bruised, because that's how the pain felt. But there was no blood and only minor bruising, so it must have been a quite light fall. Speaking to my doctor I get the sense a lot of the people who have what I have got it from quite minor falls. People think you have to fall off a building to have incontinence, but it's not at all like that >Do you not have any awareness over when you need to go, or just cant control it? My awareness is poor, but I know how my body works so I, for instance, know roughly the time when I will go #2 (a certain time after I eat). >What does that do to an 11 year old kid mentally? Sounds like it would be potentially devastating, but I hope it wasn't as bad as it might seem somehow. Well, that's too big a subject to discuss properly here, it changed my life in some ways both large and subtle. All of a sudden I had to get used being dependent on other people, especially my family, or other institutions generally which was difficult when I was at that age when you're just becoming independent. So that took time getting comfortable with. I was going through an anti-establishment phase but needed to send a form and get approval to receive a key to use the disabled bathroom lol (they put locks on many of the new ones, because of vandalism--but I love the new ones because they have changing tables, showers, and locks which work almost 100% of the time haha). So it definitely retools how you relate to the world and authority I had the typical sadness about my state but it just passed with time. ABDL has been pretty good for me. The idea of someone wearing 24/7 voluntarily somehow makes my state (wearing involuntarily) seem better lol. And I enjoy being able to give advice and chat to other people about diapers without having to use euphemism or polite words for what is a dirty topic, or whatever. ABDLs don't treat me weirdly when I talk about incontinence (well, you get people who ask "how do I have an accident and become incontinent right now", which is annoying... if you want to become incontinent, ok, either untrain and wait some years, or see a psych and find a doctor who will operate there... or go to Thatland... but don't stick a screwdriver in your head like that guy on Adisc lol) My friends growing up supported me the whole way through and were exceedingly casual and normal about it. In that regard I'm fortunate as hell :)
>>2205 >Diapers are something medical so shitting into it will be excused by most people. Just my experience >Just my experience Lmao haha. Not wrong anon
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Who's ever used a changing table in a public bathroom (pic related)? (Either recently or in the past.) Any experiences, thoughts, tips?
>>2474 I feel like I would be to self conscious about going in there. If only there was a way to not be able to tell which bathroom people went into...
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>>2488 Hmm, well I don't think others typically watch for or scrutinize the bathrooms others use. But, yes, if you were around friends or whatever, and they went into the normal toilets, and you went instead into a toilet marked 'disabled', or even worse, 'change table', etc, you would lose a bit of privacy; they would know something's up. But you would also lose privacy if you changed in a cubicle, because the tapes can be noisy. I was self-conscious about them at first, yeah, but after a few tries I started to feel more normal about it, to the extent that, on the occasions when the door's locked, I've asked the nearby reception or whatever for the key without shame or whatever. If you act normal, others will act normal. Pic related is an accessible toilet at a football stadium in Australia, with slightly unusual semi-transparent door. I have used this when I visited. (Not sure how visible one are from the outside... but it was an unusual experience.) >If only there was a way to not be able to tell which bathroom people went into... What do you mean?
>>2457 >using a vibrator Where do you put it?
>>2525 >Where do you put it? Uh, where do you think...?
>>2562 Either the tip of the penis or in the butt to stimulate the prostate.
>>2562 How much do you spend on diapers per month?
>>2474 I use them all the time. >>2565 My prostate feels weird for some reason, it's a nice but a too 'rich' sensation if that makes sense. And it can be a bit awkward to do if one has bowel incontinence, in truth... I find the penis head much too sensitive to use the vibrator on. The underside and bottom of the shaft for me is a distinct sensation to the other parts of my penis; that's what I do most of the time. >>2566 $200. As the incontinence I have is untreatable, I receive a pension which covers much of the cost (but not that of wipes, lotions, etc). I could save a lot if I wore cloth while I was at home (that's what the anons here should do).
>>2567 Do you take any tablets to decrease the smell of your poop? How many times a day do you poop?
Hi everyone. Been reading through and thought I'd share my experiences with un-training myself. I've tried to go 24/7 before around 3 years ago but stopped after 2 months as my supply of diapers dried up and they became difficult and expensive to obtain. Since the beginning of December I have been 24/7 and only used the toilet to poop. The first few weeks were difficult and the bladder spasms were debilitating at times. Waking up in the middle of the night was common and leaking was a major issue as well as flooding was common for me due to the size of my bladder at that point. The second month was better but I still found myself clamping off immediately as I needed to void. I still battle somewhat with this but it is getting better as I am nearing 13 weeks diapered. If anyone says that wearing diapers means no more public restrooms, they are either a fucking liar or have never gone 24/7 before. I have found myself in a stall changing upright more times than I care to count. You get rather blasé after a while and walking out with a used diaper in a bag to throw in the trash afterward is not difficult for me anymore. I have found that sitting down makes it difficult to pee sitting sometimes. Usually I go for a walk when I am at the office and let go. Urinating is still a conscious decision most of the time but I am starting to have accidents as well and sometimes find myself peeing suddenly with little warning (was in the grocery store getting sushi when I lost it looking at the fashion sandwiches lol). I don't really know if I am peeing at night as I don't really wake anymore and 95% of the time I am wet anyway. I should try put on a new diaper before bed and see what it looks like in the morning I guess. I use 1 or sometimes 2 diapers a day depending on how much I have had to drink in the day and how hot it is. I pee less in hot weather. At this point I flood very little, I attribute this to the fact that I have been trying very hard to let go as soon as I feel the need to pee and been practicing reverse kegels whenever I am bored. I have noticed a huge difference in the quantity of pee when I go, I suspect my bladder has shrunk a fair amount. I spend around 540 ZAR a month for 48 diapers which usually is enough. Every change still gives me chills down my spine in a good way and I have no regrets in doing what I am doing. My wife supports me and my journey. One thing I must warn, I don't know if this will happen for everyone but its definitely happening to me. I am finding that my erections are weaker and its harder to achieve orgasm without my wife, pretty much the only thing I can do to cum is use my e-stim. Morning glory's are a thing of the past and stopped completely for me around the 9 week mark. TLDR version: At the point I am at now I think I have fucked up my control enough that I will probably have an accident without diapers, so I am in it for the long haul. No-body who knows me knows or if they do they have been to polite to say anything. Thanks for reading, if you guys have any questions that I may not have spoken about here then fire away. If you would like me to post when I am further along, shout.
>>2689 Don't know that I've seen many south african abdls, whats the diaper supply situation like there? >You get rather blasé after a while You're absolutely right in that stuff just gets easier with practice. Anyone nervous about committing to 24/7 should atleast wear in public for a while to see how easy it is
>>2694 Agreed, most people don't care nor notice. As long as it's tied up in a grocery bag.
There are a variety of Chinese brands that people have brought in themselves but most of them are crap. Also with the covid-19 pandemic, imports of plastic pants and cloth diapers from China that I used to get are nearly 100% more expensive than the products themselves so I cant get those anymore realistically (2500ZAR for a all in one that costs 300ZAR). Fortunately an enterprising young lady on Fetlife from SA seems to want to make onesies, diapers and stuff so maybe I will get some stuff from her when she gets going. Grocery stores like Checkers and Pick n Pay tried to stock adult diapers at one point a few years ago but other than Tena pads and pullups Checkers don't really have much anymore and Pick n Pay only have baby stuff so they useless to me. Specialty pharmacy's like Springbok stock a local brand named Clemens at 175 ZAR for 14, then your euro at around 300 ZAR for 14 Tena's and 450 ZAR for Molicare. Chain pharmacy's like Dischem have made their own which I haven tried before but look cheap and nasty. I use ones made by Clicks which do the job well and are realistically priced. Also cloth backed is the norm here, plastic backed diapers all but disappeared around 2 years ago. I think some of the Chinese oddities might be plastic backed but I haven't cared to try them again so I am not sure. Seeing as South Africa is the asshole of the world, most of the ABDL places don't import here and ones that do charge nearly the same amount as the product or more then you still have to pay duty on it. So for example to land some Rearz Safari it is nearly 2000 ZAR for 12 which is outrageous. I'm probably going to wait until I go to America on holiday and buy direct.
Anyone switch to breathables during the summer?
hi
https://www.dailydiapers.com/board/index.php?/topic/77740-i-faked-psychosis-to-be-put-in-a-mental-hospital/#comments >i have one big question, goerge, did you really believe you had a microchip in your armpit?
>>3145 Well, that thread was an utter clusterfuck of retarded replies to retarded posts.
>>3145 i always knew there were crazies on that forum, now there's proof
>>3145 this guy is fucked in the head, if true he belongs in that group home.
>>3145 >used nappy hoard He’s right where he needs to be now
>>3145 Kek at all the boomers laughing at him.
>goerge did he... misspell his own name? christ
>>2457 >but don't stick a screwdriver in your head like that guy on Adisc I know this was months ago but wut? That's a real thing that happened? Anyone have details?
>>2457 >My friends growing up supported me the whole way through and were exceedingly casual and normal about it. In that regard I'm fortunate as hell :) Thats good to hear. The idea of someone having all their friends turn on them over something so unavoidable would leave a bad taste in my mouth. >I managed to fall while playing in the playground, but not in any spectacular way lol. Just an unlucky way. I'm sure that you probably looked at a LOT of different options back then, but have you ever seen a chiropractor? While a lot of them I'm sure are not actually doing anything scientific, there are some who actually know what they are doing. The principal is sound; the "origin story" for chiropractic involves a guy who lifted a heavy box in a weird way. There was a loud pop in his back, and he was instantly deaf. He remained deaf for years, but was otherwise unaffected. several years later, some dude hears about this story, goes to see the deaf guy, determines that one of his vertebrae was misaligned in a really specific way that caused it to press on a particular nerve in *just* the wrong way. He had the guy lay down on a table, then applied a moderate amount of force in order to persuade the vertebrae to move back into the position it should have been. There was a loud pop, and the guy could suddenly hear again perfectly well. It was a one time thing, and he never had an issue with it again.


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