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Prob-le-ma-tic Anonymous 04/05/2021 (Mon) 00:20:40 No. 11137
This is something I've been pondering on for years, now, and I was reminded of it again whilst reading Marvel 1602. I'm hoping you guys can spot me while I attempt some mental gymnastics. Every time an parallel universe is created, we can expect AT LEAST one character to be gay who otherwise would not be. This is common in Current Year™ because of SJWs and someone in Marketing not being up on what the kids REALLY want in their comics. This is a problem, especially for the SJWs who have REALLY not thought this one through. If, for example, Warren Worthington III is straight in Universe 616, and homosexual in Universe 311, that implies that, at some point, Warren either CHOSE dick or was CONVERTED AWAY from clam-digging and into the Greek sport of Bum-Darts. Colossus of 616: straight. Colossus of 1610? Queer as a 3 dollar bill and fucking Northstar. Did he get raped in the commune? Did he see a penis in a Russian bathhouse and think ''Da. Da, I am preferring that to the wagina." And why is Northstar STILL gay? Is that his multiuniversal default or did he just choose to be gay in that universe as well? Is there a straight Northstar out there somewhere? I doubt it. My point is that the SJWs, the main proponents of "born this way," by changing these characters are, in fact, stating that homosexuality is either a choice or something one is trained in to. Has anyone ever asked those fart-inhaling freaks why they think it's okay to make this "problematic" claim? Please note, I did not include Iceman in this because we all know Jean mentally converted him for teenager shipping purposes.
>>11137 I think they would argue that these characters got the gene in this universe but not the other, similar to universes where a character is a different sex than the main universe.
>>11388 The gene that has never been found?
>>11137 >left being inconsistent, and hypocritical and their only standard is double standard Water is wet. >>11392 >we can't abort faggots What a shame.

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>>11411 >>we can't abort faggots It would be good if there WAS a gene because then we could just tinker with that shit and set them on the straight and narrow. Which reminds me, there was an issue of (I think) X-Factor (Peter David's 90s run) where Tempo's dad was a doctor who had discovered a cure for the X-Gene. I think Petey was trying to say everyone except Gypsies is perfect the way they are, and anyone who tries to cure being gay a mutant deserves to die for it. >I love when I hear that Mr. David hates SJWs these days because they wouldn't be as strong as they are now if he hadn't been a little bitch about the queers and inserting them into every. single. fucking. comic. His bro's a rump-ranger. No one fucking cares you fat cunt.
>>11137 Most of the time these publishers LGBTQ-R-S signal for GLAAD type brownie points. Because they think that it will gain them more money via the publicity. Other times, they queer up the characters for the sake of appeasing whiny Tumblr and IGN "critics" after they've grabbed their pitchforks. I.E, Dagger Type. "Hey kids!" "We just made a new Captain America and this one is totally gay!" "Our new Captain America will travel the content; counseling other Captain Americas and helping them to fight their bullying oppressors!" The people that always say they support type of shit, will never purchase the entire run. Instead, they'll purchase the issues concerning muh queer and then complain about said representation on either Tumblr, the IGN or New Grounds boards.
>>11427 >>11442 Filthy causalfag question; isn't the whole mutie concept is leftie in the first place and it just kept getting worse as the left did?
>>11454 I need more clarification on your question. But lefty/SJWs always want the hero characters with the most unique powers to be either lesbian, gay, or trans. If not, the run-of-the-mill characters that are either lesbian, gay, or trans be placed front and center to represent muh LGBTQ-R-S. These characters usually act as voices of reason to the group of or single protagonists. Those that see through this can't call this out nor question it. Unless they want to be branded as a transphobe or other type of phobe.
>>11457 >I need more clarification on your question What I mean; isn't the mutie concept is anti-racist allegory which makes it already leftie and now it is expended to pro-faggotry too?
>>11459 Yes, and forgive my astigmatism. I'm down to using only one eye today.
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I wish the Ultimate universe had continued being a playground for interesting ideas for established properties instead of ending up as 616-2 and then eventually fucking destroyed in the gayest way imaginable. Ultimates and Ultimate X-Men were pretty meh as a whole but they had their moments. Tony having an inoperable brain tumor explaining his eccentric playboy billionaire persona was cool and made sense. His suit looked super rad before they eventually just made it 616 style. Dr. Strange being the son of the guy who would have been 616 Strange was really cool. Seeing him blunder about working with things he didn't fully understand yet was cool. Y'know, until Ultimatum. Don't even get me started on the Cable twist, that shit blew me away when I was a teenager. I think Marvel really benefited from having a place removed from main continuity that you could use to take characters in new directions but still with some sense of permanency. Shame things panned out the way they did and we're stuck with the blandest Spider-man instead of any of the actually fun characters.
>>11472 I have the Ultimate Dare Devil and Elektra run, which I occasionally revisit. It's meh as well. Though, it's the good kind of "meh," and not the kind that makes me want to eventually cremate it. I just don't think I'll ever purchase the 2004 Ultimate Elektra to go along with it. > having a place removed from main continuity that you could use to take characters in new directions but still with some sense of permanency. Maybe they had Ken Penders type of writers which griped and moaned so much, they had to give in their demands and let their work flow onto the mainline. They could have easily fired them. But, you have some people that know how to grab their company by the balls and squeeze in order to get what they want.
>>11472 >Tony having an inoperable brain tumor explaining his eccentric playboy billionaire persona was cool and made sense. Don't you remember what happened? The tumor was SELF-AWARE and Tony treated it like a little brother or son. The most insane shit would happen in the Ultimate universe and then you'd never hear about it again. >Tony's bone cavities were full of brain tissue instead of marrow and that's why he was so smart >The very air hurt his skin so his dad painted him in some protective blue paint >Black Widow toyed with him until he made her a custom Black Widow armor... then she proceeded to fuck off back to Russia with it so they reverse engineer it >Hawkeye lost his wife and kids and gained a deathwish. Then he got over it. >Pietro and Wanda were lovers. When Cap started to object, WASP told him to butt out...just before she was eaten. >Wolverine in Peter Parker's body tried to do something to MJ that she wanted to save until a time when they were both ready for it. It might have just been vanilla sex, but I doubt it. Either way, a hundred year old man tried to fuck a 15-year-old >during a relationship break, Spidey is stalked by the Black Cat, who is about ten years older. When he gives in and moves in for some boob, she loses her mind that she kissed a kid and vomits >Hawk-owl and Woody from Ultimate Adventures. Batman & Robin if Batman was bat-shit insane and Robin was a juvenile delinquent. Wanted to see more of them, never did. >Betty Banner as She-Hulk. Once, then never again to my knowledge. I can't even remember all of it. It was a helluva ride, though. There was a limited series that was basically Batman and Robin. Can't remember what the
>>11442 The new gay Cap rides the rails, making him a hobosexual
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>>11454 >Filthy causalfag question; isn't the whole mutie concept is leftie in the first place and it just kept getting worse as the left did? No. When X Men started way fucking back in the 60's it was Stan Lee's pseudo rip off of Wilmar H. Shiras concepts in Children of the Atom (a 1953 sci fi novel) and Stan Lee burning out on writing so many origin stories. And it sorta shows with it's lack luster dialogue, world building and stories. And it was always an under performer because of that. It took around decade or so, and the right talents to come along in the very late seventies and with Claremont, he cemented much of what you actually consider about the X-Men to this day. Claremont's ideals about outsiderdom, was NOT defined at all with anything to do with sex, and it was more about his younger experiences being a kid and moving all over the place in the US as an army kid. And he just tied that up with your standard 80's teen rebellion stuff but unlike the previous X men stories under Kirby and Lee that were kinda dull, he was all about using every spec of Marvel Universe available and pumping out some epic space stuff mixed in with some old fashioned hetro soap opera stuff as a cleanser between adventures. And even then none of the silly nonsense about Magneto and Prof X being MLK and Malcolm X metaphors was ever a thing back in it's heydays, that was just Stan Lee bullshit 80's kayfabe. But if you really wanted to know when the X-Men as gay shit went big, it was with the 80's teen LG crowd, because being younger and being somewhat post stonewall, they were thirsty to get schlicking and were looking for identities in all sorts of consumer products (because they sure as fuck weren't going to get it in a local church or mosque) so they quickly glomed onto X-men, and took it's simpler metaphors for teenaged angst and transmogrified it into being all about the upside down rainbow of ultra froot loopy flavors and marshmallow alphabets. And it was Bryan "but officer he consented brah even if was only 15" Singer who especially pointed this out and would reinforce this idea. And after the capeshit X Men movies it just wouldn't go away. But all of this kicked in during the 90's and not really all that there in the 80's when the X Men truly had it's highs. And if you really considered the 90's men boom that was more to it line being more of a spaced out GI Joe rip off than it's more Claremontian 80's days.
>>12066 >But if you really wanted to know when the X-Men as gay shit went big, it was with the 90's teen LG crowd Minor correction.
>>12066 >And he just tied that up with your standard 80's teen rebellion stuff Which was always shit.
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>>12066 >And it was Bryan "but officer he consented brah even if was only 15" Singer who especially pointed this out X-Men: Last Stand was one of the most putrid entries in the franchise for many, many reasons. But the most egregious part was Halle Barry telling Rogue that nothing was wrong with her. If ANY mutant needed a cure, it was fucking Rogue.
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>>12108 >They expose the truth all the time, but normies still fall for propagandistic lies such as "being born gay." Woke freaks are simply too stupid to hide their doublethink. And that's because there's a narrative that along with several other narratives defined the boomers and early Gen Xer's. And that's the narrative of the Stonewall riots. However the Stonewall Riots are not unlike the narratives that got written for Watergate or the Civil Rights Movement (especially regarding the relationship of Martin Luther King to communist activists at the time), or even the Tulsa riots of 1921. But if you were to press the average normie to know what actually happened that caused these events, such as the Stonewall Riots, you'll get watered down version of what people think are "eyewitness accounts" but it's always of who's being boosted in the MSM news and publishing field and rarely did anybody at the time give clarity as to what happened that caused the cops in NY to over react, or any of the police records at time, or even any interviews with the police officers. And now some 40 years away from said incident you're not going to get any clear details of said Stonewall riot either. But the narrative that ran afterward is now the entire news reporting state of affairs would take place and then be accelerated under the AIDS crisis of the 80's (which was mostly due to the underground sex tourism that was flourishing in several major metropolitan hotpots and some former colonial countries like Haiti at the time). Namely "Authority Bad, Bungholes and rainbows good". But it was a narrative that was constructed rather successfully over the decades. Only reason that it's beginning to slowly fade now is that too much shit has fallen out into the open about the circles of abuse that exist and the cover that these so called upside down rainbow charities and media have given them. I also recommend reading these books to get a handle on this stuff. But it must not be forgotten that it was a narrative that was run on your parents and you for over several decades to make it work.
>>12108 My personal belief is that there are a few legitimately born gay, but most are from abuse or, far more disturbingly, kids who thinks it's cool to be gay/trans for attention.
>>12128 >gay/trans for attention Hollyweird is one of the major influences of that. Then you have the parents which groom their children into becoming gay/trans like Desmond the Amazing's.
>>12143 >like Desmond That kid always looks stoned as fuck. Maybe he is. He looks like his mom feeds him Ecstasy along with his hormones and Flintstones vitamins. I can't wait until he hits puberty, falls for a girl, and realizes how badly his mom fucked him up. I can't wait until ALL of them wake up and murder their parents. I'm not being an edgelord, but soon-to-be parents need a fucking example of what will happen if they trade their child's mental health for "likes."
>>12194 Inside he's probably screaming. Which will eventually lead to him becoming an emotional wreck. But something tells me that kid is too far gone mentally for any hope that he'll snap out of it. His parents, mainly mommy, are most likely strict like those beauty pageant moms.
>>11472 >marvel wanted wanted good stand alone univers making it 616 Bundy you just remind me of squadrone supreme, they took DC hero concept ran for it and thenBendis happen and it become 616.3 with no more DC heros(they all either fuck off to space or never show their power again) but marvel heros yet again
>>12066 >>12067 Thanks for the detailed answer, but other anon said >>11464 it was anti-racist allegory...is it true?
>>12232 Nigger, the detailed answer answers your question. Are you ESL?
>>12200 >But something tells me that kid is too far gone mentally for any hope that he'll snap out of it. He looks like a 10-year-old Dylan Roof and I guaran-damn-tee that there is murder in his future, either giving or receiving. Given his programming, he's probably better at receiving, if you get my drift. He appears to be on the spectrum which is a favorite target for the trannysmiths. Look what happened to Chrischan. I'm pretty sure it only took his arch-enemies (ie. the interwebs) an afternoon to convince him to start taking hormones and masturbating a literal wound on camera.
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>>12251 >pic
>>11137 >>11388 I can buy this explanation in a completely different universe, but not when it's just a different timeline. The example that's close to OP's, but I think works better, is with Star Trek, where Sulu is straight in the main timeline but gay in the alternate timeline, even though they do have the same DNA because it's just a different timeline which only split around the time of Kirk's birth, and they started in the same place. So there, they pretty much just confirmed that it is a choice. Then again, that's the same franchise where a timeline splitting in the 2200s caused Khan to change from a swarthy spanish man to a pale alien looking white guy even though he was born in the 1950s, so I guess it's just best to ignore anything from after Enterprise. It's legally not canon anyway since even the "Prime Timeline" elements from the new things are required to be at least "40% different" from the actual original universe. >>12251 Chris Chan's archenemies, The Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens, consisting of characters like Clyde Cash, Jimmy Hill, Billy Mays, Liquid Chris, The Man in The Pickle Suit, and Bluespike, among others, never did anything like this. The closest anyone ever got was when Bluespike convinced him to shove his medallion up his butt, and the other trolls all got very angry about it, with Clyde Cash himself telling Bluespike to stop, and then getting Bluespike to drop off the face of the earth. No, the people who turned Chris into a tranny and almost made him kill himself by slicing his taint open in an attempt to "free his inner vagina," those people were his "friends." They called themselves "The Teen Troon Squad," and were a literal gang of trannies. For all the horrible things the trolls did to Chris, it was nothing compared to what some tranny "friends" did to him. >>12101 The Last Stand is the one that wasn't directed by Singer, though. He left to do Superman Returns, where Lois cucks Cyclops with Superman.
>>12200 >His parents, mainly mommy, are most likely strict like those beauty pageant moms. For Desmond, like most messed up boys (especially the ones who become shooters), he's only got a single parent, his mom, and the father or any other patriarch in his family mysteriously is not available for comment.
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Its only a matter of time before they retcon every character of note into being gay.
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>>12383 Fucking brilliant
>>12256 Fucking Heathers. I realize they probably deserved death, but to make it look like Romeo and Romeo was just cruel.
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>>12282 >The Last Stand is the one that wasn't directed by Singer, though. He left to do Superman Returns, where Lois cucks Cyclops with Superman. My bad. >>12282 >No, the people who turned Chris into a tranny and almost made him kill himself by slicing his taint open in an attempt to "free his inner vagina," those people were his "friends." They called themselves "The Teen Troon Squad," and were a literal gang of trannies. For all the horrible things the trolls did to Chris, it was nothing compared to what some tranny "friends" did to him. 1. Then I have been misinformed. 2. Absolutely disgusting. Trannies breed like vampires: picking a victim and feeding on him until he becomes one of them.
>>12251 >Look what happened to Chrischan Last time I heard anything of him, he had a severe meltdown at that comic con. Now he's doing that. His body pillow sex tape was bad enough alone. >>12383 Then they'll claim a majority of said characters were always queer. "Logan and Scott had thing for each other since high school" said one the one writer who had toys as a kid and has never read the comics.
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>>12483 >"Logan and Scott had thing for each other since high school" said one the one writer who had toys as a kid and has never read the comics. Excerpt from Noelle Stevenson: A Guide To Writing Beloved Properties
>>12517 She looks like a vampire that just noticed that the photographers were all wearing crucifixes.
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>>11442 >pic I never realized this when this shitty issue was originally released, but I'm pretty sure most heroes would be (at least secretly) offended as fuck to find out some transvestite piece of shit was using the heroes' scary-to-criminals shtick as a drag act. He's lucky he did it to Batgirl and not Batman. >"Where are the drugs?!" >"What are you gonna do, snap your fingers at me in a sassy way?" >"...whut?" >"Oh, please don't hit me with your sequined purse, Dark Knight!" >"What in the fuck are you talking about?!" >"The drugs are in Warehouse 6. The faggot prancing around in a sequined Batman suit is at The Boobytrap down on 84th. You only have time to get to one. Choo--" >"84th street or avenue?" >"Avenue." >"If you've lied to me..." >"Yeah, yeah. You should hurry. He's probably at the part where he goes into the audience and starts sucking random cocks."
>>12661 >"Yeah, yeah. You should hurry. He's probably at the part where he goes into the audience and starts sucking random cocks." >imp-fucking-plying he's done this in the past that is fucking GOLD
>>12661 The issue is not all that bad and not all that good. But it was enough to make a few normies cry. So, I give it 4.5 stars just for that. Dagger Type would've definitely wound up in Gotham's finest infirmary; connected to a feeding tube, if it had been Batman. Defamation of his caped persona results in pain. It's like when the corpses of Frank Castle's family got dug up and pissed on.


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