>>24204
>1st pic, final panel
Amy's motivation was never to "prove herself," it was just to be with Sonic. That's what makes her arc in Sonic Adventure work. She wasn't trying to prove herself, but she gets put in a situation that leads to her realizing she could do cool stuff too. But of course importantly, she wants to do cool stuff just because she figures that would make Sonic like her. Turning it into a thing where the other characters won't let her prove herself is dumb.
>>24208
>last pic
>Bean and Bark work under Fang for Eggman
>but for some reason Bark in particular might be less bad
Why? Is this something established in the Archie series? In the games, Bean and Bark were probably not intended as bad guys in Fighters, but then they were implied to be bad guys in Generations, so fine. But I don't get why one would be worse than the other.
Oh wait, it's just some weird shipping thing.
>>24188
>The only difference is whether or not you actually like the writing they produced
No, there are actual stylistic differences and you know it. It's easy to tell the difference between the real thing and something badly attempting to imitate that thing. Or rather, something probably not directly trying to imitate, but is just influenced by it, as well as by a bunch of other shitty things.
>anime writing can be just as shallow
I never claimed all anime was good or anything like that. What I am claiming is that Sonic was a shounen anime from the start, and I'd rather it stay like that rather than get infected with current year western trends in cartoons.
>Wow, sounds just like most characters this franchise has introduced.
And this is an adaptation. It doesn't get the leeway of the course material to do that. Also, using the Deadly Six as one of your examples isn't helping you, since nobody likes them or the game they're from, including its story. Gaia, one could argue, fits somewhat with things like Chaos and Void. Additionally, everyone complained for years about Sonic games always creating new friends for Sonic. However, making a sequel or spinoff game with a new story which involves new characters showing up to drive the story forward is very different from doing an adaptation of a long running series and then introducing OCs that take up more attention than major characters from the source material. Just make an original series and stop wasting the money on licensing the adaptation, if you think people want to read about your OCs. Oh wait, they don't. People are interested in the series because it's based on a long running series, and they want to see stuff from that long running series.
>Same with Whisper, who's only relation to Buddy from Forces is that they both use Wispons & nothing else, but besides that, is completely her own character.
Yes. That is what I'm complaining about. I'm saying it would have been better if she was the Buddy from Forces. I'm not saying either character literally doesn't make sense existing, I'm saying that they don't have compelling reasons to exist. They're not characters from the source material that people are coming to this adaptation for, and they aren't particularly tied to things from the source material either. It's not a clever idea that springs out of the source material, it's just "I'm gonna make a new character."
>lol, grow up
My point exactly, faggot.
>My point is that assuming everything related to this particular comic is "SJW affecting things" is just boring hysteria that has no basis in reality.
It has plenty of basis in reality, and everyone knows it. By acting otherwise, you're going too far and making people not believe you're being sincere. The facts of the matter are so obvious that people can't ignore them even when they want to. Now, with this comic in particular, I'll admit it's not as bad as with other things, but given the way things are, I'm more suspicious than I may have been in like 2010.
>If you can point to anything in IDW Sonic that's actually similar to something like "Ghostbuster '16" I'd love to see it, but right now, I'm not seeing it.
It's been pointed out already. Nobody is claiming it's as blatant. It's just something that raises an eyebrow. For an example in the latest issue, thinking that Amy wanted to "prove herself" but Sonic and Tails never "gave her a chance." Fundamental feminist trope that doesn't mesh with Amy's actual character at all. It's a minor detail that ends up not affecting the story, and I liked the issue overall, but they just had to throw that in there, didn't they? Just having Amy be upset about being left behind again makes sense and works. Having her decide that she's going to get the Emerald to impress Sonic would make sense, and even the ending that the story has would make sense with that motivation. Saying she always wants to prove herself but they won't let her doesn't work, and is just pushing a stupid message that is pushed far too much in modern media, especially comics.
>And even if they did "infest the comic," SEGA/Sonic has had plenty of stuff in their history that'd count as "SJW shit," so I dunno what to tell ya
Not in the games, they haven't. I don't know about other stuff. Also, your quotation marks there are just betraying you as the dyed in the wool SJW cult member you are.
>arguments of authority that whatever Sega does automatically "fits" with the series
You're missing a point that's been explained to you many times. Everyone knows Sega has fucked up plenty of times, and using Forces of all things as your example is only proving my point, not yours.
>certain concepts introduced in IDW Sonic (which honestly was just concepts already introduced/planned to be introduced in Archie Sonic
Archie Sonic was much worse, yes. I don't know why you think pointing to that makes your argument better either.
>or was introduced in the games already
Uh, no.
>the argument that these things don't belong in Sonic is just lunacy & there's nothing that really supports it, outside of just your dislike for it.
Your argument that anything would fit as long as Sega says so is lunacy. Sega technically signed off on everything Ken Penders ever did on the series. Sega signed off on Sonic Underground. Do you think everything Marvel does with their fucked up comics fits with those series as well? Captain America was a nazi all along, that fits with the series because Marvel said so. Thor is unworthy of the name his mom and dad gave him because he's a shitlord, so his ex girlfriend gets his name and powers instead. Marvel said so, so it fits. No, fuck you. Corporations, or even individual authors who created a series, can still fuck up and do things that don't fit with what the series was or should be.
But of course, my argument about Tangle and Whisper isn't that they don't fit, it's that I don't want OCs being so prominent in any licensed work. I don't buy a licensed product for things not from the source material.