>>5587 Oh man I really did forget to post the weekly session somehow, really sorry about that.

Today is the day, get in here

Overslept again, but I'll post everyting when I get home from work heh

>>5590 >1950 like all art history classes Don't worry, you didn't miss much. I don't go to art school, but i took a course of art history for my degree. Professor called a 'local famous artist' who just fucking filled WWII gunshot holes it with lead and we had to attend a mandatory "question and answer" as not to embarass the teacher who had called him. Fucker even mentioned how he faked one with a drill and wondered if the ballistic scientist he called would've been able to figure out what was the impostor amongus. As if a drill and a gun leave the same marks.

>>5614 >Fucker even mentioned how he faked one with a drill and wondered if the ballistic scientist he called would've been able to figure out what was the impostor amongus. As if a drill and a gun leave the same marks. Don't know the guy, but fucking with "experts" is always good.

I dreamed about drawing last night. The dream was just me drawing with a pencil. Must be because I have been drawing at least 6 hours a day for the past few weeks. I am a bit disappointed by my dream performance though. I only enjoyed a marginal boost to my real life drawing skill. Whereas I usually have the power of god in my lucid dreams. Also my neighbor is making NFT. The craze is over. I just sold everything.

>>5609 You could view simplified construction (like the stuff in the early pages of Fun With a Pencil) as the ground-level basis for perspective drawing, so if you think you're starting to understand construction, a dive into formal perspective may be something you ought to consider.

>>5610 In that case I am already studying formal perspective (after having studied simple perspective in Perspective Made Easy) and I will hope to god that helps me nail the rest of the damn steps. I'll just keep trucking along that route now. Not >>5575 or >>5567 btw

>>5514 Fin

>>5584 >tfw no half-starved socialist socialite FSU catsuit gf This is le gabidalisds' fauld :DD

WIP

>>5583 Bee-ness Inspection Day

>>5616 Finished up with that 🅱ig project of yours yet?

>>5617 Need-to's are done Fiddling around with like-to-have's Time to go public quickly approaching

Merry Christmas from /co/!

>>5468 Thanks lads

iktf

After a week of drawing on my new tablet I am incapable of returning my smaller one. It feels so constraining to be unable to draw with full shoulder movement. I have no idea how I managed survive for a whole year with a tablet that small. I can never go back now that I know how wonderful large tablets are. Just wanted to let you know that I am grateful for your advice Loomis. Cheers.

>>5455 Thank you; I'm extremely glad to see that so many people who've gone through with similar upgrades seem to share a similar sentiment.

Oh, I found the screenshot of that table that was once present on the WACOM wiki a few months ago (no-schizo, it was removed from the wiki a day or two after I'd posted it in a tablet thread on /ic/ after being on there for who knows how long. Coincidence?) This table, to me, proves that Wacom's tablets have been more or less unchanged since the Intuos 3-apart from ergonomic concerns-as well as the potential "sensitivity" of their stylus which most will tell you isn't something of real concern

>>5473 Ah, I remember I wrote out a big response to this but my phone screwed up and I discarded it. Anyway: 2B, 6B 2H, none of that stuff has ANYTHING to do with the size of the pencil itself, it has everything to do with the softness or hardness of the lead core (the part of the pencil that makes the mark on the paper) and that's it. Hard leads are capable of the faintest values/lightest possible value ranges and the opposite is true for the soft leads (6B being the softest). Put simply: softer lead = darker mark harder lead = lighter mark These are what I use when I draw in pencil: https://www.dickblick.com/products/blick-studio-drawing-pencils/ They're what I mentioned earlier. Over ten pencils each in a full value range set for $70 is quite a decent deal (you can see an artistic rendition of the pencil's possible value range in the pictures of individual pencils). So you buying nothing but 6B is kind of silly but if you're just starting out and mostly focusing on measurement techniques you'll be fine.

>>5519 Dude 70 dollars is way too expensive for pencils I get them in cheap and in bulk from ching cnan chong. cost like 1 dollar for 12 pencils.

WEAR ARE BEAR pls don't go Harb on us, Burr. Also if you're reading this, come back ffs Harb whatever we did we're sorry

>>5488 I am on a similar level to you. >>5493 is right. Going through basics can help a lot especially if you are self taught. Beginner books will likely cover some techniques you missed. Drawing sloped roofs in perspective was one of them for me. Over time work your way up to more advanced books. Life drawing is another good way to improve. Don't always focus on rendering models with as much detail as possible. Do some quick drawings. Focus on gesture (shape, fell, and energy of the pose), contours, or shadows. Once at a time per quick drawing. >Another thing, I want to segue into animation, with emphasis on human anatomy, so how do I go about doing that? My mind's eye is alright I suppose, but not nearly as sharp as my real one. It's best if you start from basics and work your way up. There are books and videos that cover what you need to know. >this is the first time I've been to any /loomis/ Then you probably do not know about the resource hub. It has books and links to videos that will help you. https://web.archive.org/web/20190721220321/http://www.8ch.net/loomis/hub.html

>>5497 >>5493 Alright, I'll try from the beginning. Also, is it worthwhile to do things in color early on or should I try to save that for later? It's something I've been tempted to do, but I think that it'll be tough for me because I don't sketch anything beforehand.

>>5499 I would stick to single color when learning shapes, anatomy, shading, etc. That way you do not waste time on picking colors and everything that goes with it. Learn coloring and realistic rendering in color, obviously. Try incorporate thing you learned in drawings you do for fun only. Don't get stuck grinding practice all the time either. It's too easy to get burned out that way, and you need to draw something else just so you have a chance to apply what you learned over past few hours or days.

>>4013 >any good... anything on the basics of construction with shapes? i'm just learning how to do this I would start with just looking at some pictures of cartoons characters or objects you have and tracing shapes over them. Anything complex is made up of very basic shapes, the square, circle, and triangle. You'll learn about perspective as you get a handle on construction, and be able to tackle more difficult subjects. The idea is to take simple forms and turn them 3D. Once you can do that, you can twist and turn them, change these shapes to be whatever you want, and you'll be able to visualize in 3D. Form drawing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhOdCVZjdDA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEtdDvK6Xo I would start with CtrlPaint's beginner course on traditional sketching on his website.

>>4033 Thansk for the advice, but the shapes part is what I've already done. Those animals made from shapes is where I'm at now, and it's what I'm looking for. I don't mean to sound like I think I've mastered it, or anything. But I've been shapes and perspective for months and I want to move on from it.

I need references of people doing things. Not athletes in motion or static poses but actions being performed. Anything would work, really, I just want to practice describing different actions and contexts. I can just search, of course, for any random thing like "climbing ladder", "firing pistol" or "cooking". But that approach doesn't expose me to ideas outside my own perspective. Is there any way I could find a large collection of such images or videos without searching explicitly for specific actions?

New Krita 5.0 beta, F*ckers! https://krita.org/en/item/second-beta-for-krita-5-0/ Have they added [insert feature] or fixed [insert bug] like you'd always wanted, at long last?

>>4961 > Have they added [insert feature] or fixed [insert bug] like you'd always wanted, at long last? I wait until it's out of beta to compile it. Last time I tested 5.0 branch, it was very unstable(that was a year ago). I hope they fixed some of the weird bugs I got, that lead to crashes. Most often than not RAM issues. The comics docker was alao unusable for me. Maybe it works when 5.0 is released. I'm praying to Jebus.

New Krita release, fuggers https://krita.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Video-for-store_final-30fps.mp4?_=1

kyselves art kikes

>>4977 Oh, I knew I remembered black wallnut extract from somewhere. You're trying to get rid of your parasites. Terpentine has to be taken with the most disgusting of augars, so these things actually are tricked into killing themselves. I'm not sure anymore, but I think you took it right before eating or so (don't quote me on that). The most effective for me was some black extract imported from russia, maybe that was black wallnut. It was liquid though. I always took a cup of water with a few drops before eating. Aftee four days it started to get too uncomfortable for these fuckers, so they dipped. I hope you go through with it every day, until you see qn effect. After two weeks, there should be an effect at latest.

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>>5412 I'm sorry if this comes off as kind of hostile, but "detracts from the effect of the comic" is such a vague statement. It straight up does not mean anything. Are you implying that it is always wrong to do this kind of reverse order establishing? Because that I just can't agree with. There are many reasons why you might want to use that technique. I agree it's an awkward application if only because it's just a name, and shoved into the corner at that, but I wouldn't say that I feel particularly lost. >>5413 Here's an example that kind of sequence in Aruku Hito, even more vague and on the very first page of the comic, although in that case it's kind of irrelevant who is speaking. I think it might make it less awkward if you rewrote the dialogue to fit more information over the establishing shot, rather than just the name of the protagonist, if that's the way you want to play it. The "heh" bubble on page 3 I think would be better placed inside the last panel, or at least further down. The way it is, my eye is drawn to it even before looking at panel 4, which messes up the sequence. I would generally be careful about placing bubbles between panels unless you have a specific reason to. It's a useful trick for making something read as simultaneous or softening a transition, but it can just as easily make a sequence feel kind of limp. I'm a little curious about your reasoning for that particular bubble placement. p.5 has a similar issue, I read the text and move into panel 3 right off the bat. I pretty much have to force myself to look up to the corner at panel 2. It would work better if the two boxes of exposition weren't completely adjacent. If you moved one or had a gutter between. Overall I think the takeaway is simply study how professional comic artists place their bubbles. Compare their work with yours and think as much about what they don't do as what they do. This stuff is pretty sensitive, you want to avoid making the reader need to actively move their eye elsewhere than the most obvious reading order, and speech bubbles seem to take priority over pictures in most cases. Anything that can be mistaken will be mistaken.

>>5443 >that kind of sequence Maybe not the right phrase actually. The sequence itself isn't that comparable Whatever.

>>5443 >I'm a little curious about your reasoning for that particular bubble placement. i'm afraid i didn't really think about it the same goes for the text bubble on page 5 maybe i should have placed it at the top of page five ty, i don't know if i'll ever do something like this ever again, but if i do i'll try incorporate your advice

>>5319 >disgraced 8kun.top What happened? I know the timeline as this: >Hotwheels leaves because he's a cunt and blames everyone for "bullying" him. >Codemonkey takes over >site gets shat on by alt left. >Jim decides "let's rebrand" to 8kun. >codemonkey talks with lawyer about loli because unironic pedos have been getting loli banned everywhere. >lawyer says loli is not allowed >traffic bombs as anons leave to the webrings. >eventually codemonkey steps down and that's all I know. what happened afterwards?

>>5395 The story of 8chan so far as I know it, being a guy that posted on /loomis/ pretty much exclusively this entire time (but still believed in the "idea" of 8chan as a hedge against over moderated, censorious websites like R*ddit): >8chan.net picks up Gamergate traffic and becomes relevant out of nowhere after a couple years of just sort of floundering around like most non-4chan imageboards >Hotwheels begins taking heat from journalists, SJW-types etc. which he bravely shrugs off >8chan is taken over by a rich old boomer named Jim and his son Codemonkey, with Hotwheels remaining basically the CTO or whatever you might call it; Hotwheels was painted into a corner because he was cut off from all conceivable mainstream payment gateways so effectively selling the site was his only option >Suddenly, just a few months in the site stops working properly, posts on the front page are frozen in place for hours, sometimes days at a time (the catalog still works normally) >Instead of fixing the problem, Hotwheels and his friend Josh Moon who Jim hired with Hotwheels' recommendation deign to make a new imageboard engine entirely. The site is left broken for six months and well over 90% of the users, maybe over 95% even had left by that point. >Hotwheels has an epiphany and investigates the code; it was one of Josh's commits that broke the site and instead of taking care of that which probably took him no time at all and giving themselves time to work on this second project they put the cart before the horse, losing everything in the process. >8chan.net was still around and now "fixed", then some Kiwi shoots up a mosque full of people who unironically didn't do nuffin' and instead of blaming it on Reddit implicates 8chan, which is subsequently taken out in the legal kerfuffle that followed. >Some months pass after that and then 8chan comes back as "8kun", is hosted on a toaster and riddled with posting errors >We stuck it out as long as we could there despite its flaws but it was pretty insufferable, eventually I was approached by Mark who moderated /v/ from the beginning of the affair who'd apparently made his own imageboard with help, and that's how we ended up hear

>>5397 Sorry, but that really isn't any less or more than what I already know. I was wondering if there were any updates on drama after CM left.

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You're showing substantial improvement in between these two drawings. You still have a lot of work to do, but I swear to God the first image made me lose my breath and grip my chest in an animal-like primal fear response. Your second picture shows a lot of promise, in that it did not do that. You have a long way to go but you are clearly moving forward, congratulations, that's more than can be said for many.

Your art has improved drastically, good job anon. If you are going the pencil route. You need to clean up your line quality more. Chicken scribbles look rough. Either use a rubber to clean it up and you want your lines to be more clearer, straight and more pronounced. You need to start pressing harder with the pencil tip to get more tone. It will help separating the different parts into varies shadows dark and light to help identify and see everything more clearly and give each part distinction. If your not already using the side of the pencil for shading. You want to keep it to one direction of the shading pattern it will look more appealing and congruent. Keep up the practice and you will get better with time.