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Invidious development halting Anonymous 08/01/2020 (Sat) 22:22:29 No. 826
https://omar.yt/posts/stepping-away-from-open-source https://archive.fo/78QBm https://web.archive.org/web/20200801221530/https://omar.yt/posts/stepping-away-from-open-source Starting September 1st, I'm shutting down the user-facing portion of https://invidio.us and stepping away from development. If you have an account on the site, you can export your data here, which will allow you to import everything to another instance or self-host. The API will continue to function until October 1st, to give time for any services relying on it to migrate to other solutions. If you're a patron on Liberapay, I would urge you to switch your donation to iv-org, as that will ensure it goes to the stewards of the project going forward. At the time of this writing, the main Invidious instance has roughly 35,000 users. It's difficult for me to even begin to think of those as actual people, and not just a number. At that level, the amount of feedback I receive, which I would consider rather small in comparison to others I've seen, is overwhelming. It's demoralizing not being able to respond to all of it properly. Even more so when I've received something that deserves an involved response, but I haven't had the time to reply, which counter-intuitively means the best comments are least likely to receive any response. To echo antirez: it's crushing not being able to be "there" for people. Lately, I've felt myself withdraw much more in return. For any project though, especially something that requires maintanence, it's difficult to actually "unplug" and mentally recharge. Turning off notifications has helped, but it's definitely taken its toll. For any project of a certain size, it's more important for the lead to be a manager more than a developer. As an example, it's mostly well-known that Linus Torvalds hardly does any coding anymore. At that point working on a side-project becomes a job, and not one I particularly enjoy. If I had known that I would've ended up in that position on a passion project, I'm curious if I would have made it open-source, or started working on it at all. In either case, I consider myself extremely lucky to have people that can manage the project in future, and can only imagine what it would be like for someone without that luxury. I can't help shake the feeling that somewhere, the software I use is being developed solely by volunteers who would rather quit, but don't have the ability to say "no". This post has been delayed for that very reason, especially when so many people have given so much, and I feel they deserve a proper goodbye. At this point though, I can't find the strength to leave on better terms. I don't want this to read like I somehow feel underappreciated or underpaid. I'm not motivated by praise or money. After working on the same thing for three years, I'm just tired and ready to move on. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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RIP in peace, Invidious
>>826 Well that fucking sucks.
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Well fuck. Now I have to point my RSS feeds at something else. What do we use now?
>>835 You can just use any other invidious instance. But if jewgle breaks all invidious instances and there's no one around to fix it I guess we're fucked. I'm sure someone will take up the project maybe https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/wiki/Invidious-Instances
>>837 Can google even break invidious? I thought they didn't use any of YouTube APIs?
The original founder is just stepping away from developing, invidious is not going likely away anytime soon.
>>826 The development is not halting, some other guy took over. He said he won't contribute much but will do code review, which is 100% of what project leaders do anyway, so it shouldn't be that bad.
>>840 Google's been known to break shit like youtube-dl and other apps like NewPipe. Usually it's a simple fix, but someone's gotta do it.
>all these broken ass invdious instances >all my RSS feeds fucked This is awful
this sucks. my final solution though is to just have a bigass hard drive and download all the videos I need from youtube and not have to actually visit the site much at all.
>>1120 I think this should just become standard practice for videos you would miss if they disappeared because youtube will eventually start deleting things.
>>1122 Not only that, but creators often regularly purge old videos. Either they content is no longer considered relevant, they're worried someone might get offended, or they just decide it's not the image they want to project anymore. There's a lot of YouTube history that's already gone because some major independent creators wiped their catalogs. Some do it just because their old stuff lacks the polish of their newer stuff. Downloading a local copy is the only way to ensure you don't lose it. The difficult part is just offering a way to browser the site and track your favorite channels without giving Google your soul.
>>1122 Yes, you're very right. In my case, I can't yet afford a new hard drive. I try to download what I can but space fills up quick. I did get a free lifetime account, unlimited, on... google drive.... through my school. Luckily, it works with rclone, so I encrypt my stuff and upload it to free up space. But also, my network speeds are terrible. I get maybe 200k speeds most of the time. Tons of videos I watched have gotten deleted already. I think ideally, I would just download entire channels of videos regularly.
>>1190 I archive some channels I watch at 720p on my hard drive. Even the bigger channels have only some thousands of videos. You can easily fit many such channels onto a 4TB hard drive.
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I really like that project, and am grateful to authors of such good stuff. It's so unfortunate that that faggot Jew chose some gay language to make that project (two of Crystal's authors are probably Jews as well, so all would make more sense.) On top of that he chose an awful name for the project. The code is, as in most shithub projects, a fucking mess; I just saw a 1200-line code file with some 7-level nested blocks and less than a dozen comment lines in the entire file. To anyone who has brains and some good idea for a nice project, make it in some decent language like Perl please - not stupid, gay or retarded languages, and write your shit properly, and choose a nice name, thank you.
>>1333 >this how /pol/faggots actually think Post code
>>1333 >do my work for me and do it the way I want GNO
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>>1336 You're a faggot. >>1340 Not asking anyone to do anything for me you stupid imbecile. It's a suggestion to make decent things that can last, not garbage like many open source projects, with pajeet-code levels of intelligibility, which after the faggot creator leaves, no one can understand shit. Even if using gay or retarded languages, at least write shit properly. Choose decent names for your crap: imagine if your parents named you something like Tumor or Deficient. Many """software developers""" now are just like niggers: 'ooga booga where da cool new tehc at' monkey see monkey do mentality; naming their offspring like crap, completely distorted notions of aesthetics, no long-term planning.
>>1345 There's nothing wrong with 1200-line code files nor 7-level nested blocks, unless you were specifically mentioning those to emphasize the need for commenting. I don't see what's wrong with the name "invidious", especially if you think of "invidio" and "us" separately. And if you're going to be that guy who tells people to write their projects in another language, at least pick something that's less of a meme than Perl.
>>1348 Of course I was mentioning the number of comments; I'm not retarded to think that there is something wrong with 1200-line code files. >I don't see what's wrong with the name "invidious" in·vid·i·ous (ĭn-vĭd′ē-əs) adj. 1. Tending to rouse ill will, animosity, or resentment: invidious accusations. 2. Offensive and unfair: invidious distinctions. >And if you're going to be that guy who tells people to write their projects in another language >less of a meme than Perl Nigger are you serious? Yeah, that's a language backed by (((big tech companies))), taught in (((colleges))), suited for beginners, used by faggots, women, pajeets, with a friendly, sleek and modern syntax, whose developers and users strive to create an inclusive, vibrant and diverse community. Absolutely a meme language. I was being half-ironic in that part where I mentioned it; I thought of a better alternative for stupid gay Python/JS cancer.
>>1349 >Perl >a friendly, sleek and modern syntax Unironically kill yourself.
>>1350 Nice reading comprehension retard.
>>1349 Well I didn't know invidious was an actual word, if you pronounce it it sounds like "in videos". I think it's clever in some roundabout way, you're bypassing youtube's ads and other tracking shit and thus in theory also denying content creators their ad revenue, so the definition of 'invidious' is somewhat fitting. >I'm not retarded to think that there is something wrong with 1200-line code files. You never know, there's people out there who think a single procedure shouldn't be longer than 20 lines, and that 1000 lines of code in a single file is a big problem.
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>a boomertube proxy shutting down is the biggest news of the year the absolute state of wh*te people. yup it's no surprise that you faggots actually consume youtube like broadcast TV from the 90s. >>1352 >NOOO NOT THE CONTENT CREATORINOS HOW WILL I KNOW WHAT SHAVER TO BUY!!
>>1349 Imagine how much better imageboards would be if /pol/posters couldn't post anywhere but their home board. Your complaints about the service are more based on a cross between /pol/ and /x/ paranoid schizophrenia about the name and the existence of jews than about the service itself. <the .moe domain shares a name with Moe Howard aka Moe Horowitz, a jewish comedian from the Three Stooges shorts, therefore 8chan.moe is (((compromised))) It's really sad that a retarded parody is so close to the real thing that you can hardly tell the difference between the two. Posters like you are poe's law embodied. >>1412 You forgot your soyjak.
>>1567 Are you really going through the entire fucking site just to derail thread with this bullshit?
>>1568 Replying to a post is derailment now? What are you on about?
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>>1567 Just because I named jews that makes me a /pol/ retard? Fucking faggot. You've made a really dumb straw man, that retarded parody is nowhere near what I've said. The naming is simply a matter of good taste, something most retards in this field lack completely. My complaints have a technical basis; you're just a little faggot who is offended by some particular truths. Go back to where you came from.
>>1593 >The naming is simply a matter of good taste >posts Terry Shoo schizo
Is there any good instance out thee? Each one I tried has something not working, be it the search results, displaying a channel page, or even the video itself not playing.
>>1638 The snopyta one suffers from that problem, but I've had good luck with yewtube.
>>1638 Trying the search over and over again sometimes works. And sometimes it doesn't.
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>>847 So that's why youtube-dl so frequently fails to download videos.

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