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Sony is allegedly gutting Japan Studios Anonymous 02/26/2021 (Fri) 04:09:03 Id:b618f5 No. 247709
https://archive.vn/wip/xM0IM Hopefully the devs will be able to make a new studio and make spiritual successors to the great games. Would be hilarious if Nintendo or MS gave them funding
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>there will never be a Tokyo Jungle 2 now
>>247709 They can get parasites like Bluepoint to make Bloodbourne 2, no need to actually support their own homegrown studios.
>>247709 Can't say I'm surprised.
>>247918 Gravity Rush 2
>>247918 Gravity Rush 2 was 2017. I know the studio doesn't make a ton anymore but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck to see them go.
>mods deleted the post epic
>>247924 Mark only allows corporate worship now.
Not surprising since they have ignored the Japanese market and going Western after that California HQ move.
>Switch selling stupid numbers world wide. >Top ten console game charts world wide are always dominated by Switch games. >Lets be honest Tom Nook just took a piss all over said charts and made them all his bitch >PS5 are starting to come back in stock. >No one cares scalpers cant even shift their PS5s >Spidertoken sold alright but got forgotten in a week. .>State of Play had no games. >Sony just gutted their best studio. Someone should explain to Sony that when your rival is fucking kicking your ass you should bring your A game not stick your head up your own ass and say this is fine.
>>248473 I don't think SIE considers Nintendo as a direct rival, only the Xbox brand which hilariously isn't that much different either since it also only accepts "western-approved" japanese games. Sony's current objective is also to publish games meant to become huge best-sellers (this mentality is also reminiscence of how Sony treated the Vita that failed to be worldwide popular), so niche games won't fill that criteria. Still funny and sad to watch Sony burn bridges with every japanese dev & publisher, while nu-Sony fanboys are complete denial mode, such as pretending the new studio made by the old Japan Studio staff will obligatory make a game project dedicated for the PS5 (a console that is still selling much worse than the WiiU with literally zero PS5 softwares ever charting in Famitsu)
>>247709 >no bloodborne sequel >no folklore sequel >no gravity rush 3 >no ape escape 1-3 ports, nor a 4th game >iirc no more wipeout and gran turismo games Literally why would anyone buy a PS5? If you want western trash there's xbox.
>>248500 >muh nip games Even though most of them are not only coming out for the Shitbox, Switch, and (((PC,))) the ones that are exclusive are typically turbo-shit.
>>248500 For interactive movies and FIFA
>>247763 Best case scenario this causes From to make a spiritual successor to Bloodborne that's multiplatform.
>>248507 Fuck Soulshit and all the cocksucking it gets Goddamned sick of it
>>248509 You tell 'em anon, I want my Armored Core back.
>>248511 >Armored Core You were lucky, they brought back Tenchu only to Soulsborne it to fuck and back.
>ape escape 4 never ever 3 > 1 > 2
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>>248500 >iirc no more wipeout and gran turismo games GT7 was announced last year. Thank god no Wipeout, at least that franchise died with some dignity
>>247709 Japanese studios are problematic and not blm tranny friendly.
>>248497 >Sony's current objective is also to publish games meant to become huge best-sellers. Which they never really do. Sony games can not seem to get anywhere near Nintendo numbers. So you are correct Sony is not Nintendo's rival. At this point they are Google Stadia's rival.
>>247709 what happened to Sony being a Japanese company?
>>248724 Parasites have taken over the body. At least in the game division
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>>248724 >Mid 2010 there was a huge surge in the popularity of woke western cinematic games. >Sony though oh shit we better cash in on that. >Thinking they had seen off both their rivals Nintendo and Microsoft they decided to get cocky and take risks. >Move to California. >Started making more woke western trash. >Sudden surge in popularity of Japanese games. >Sony already burned its bridges with the nips. >Switch happened. >Nintendo makes every market its bitch >Tom Nook starts printing money in his basement and selling Pyra costumes to e-thots. >Sony sticks its head in the sand and says this is fine continues what it was doing. >Microsoft still does not know what the fuck its doing. >Microsoft too rich to fucking care. Chasing fads is what happened to Sony Anon.
>>248724 What's happening to Sony is what happened to Sega, except in reverse.
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>>248509 >Fuck Soulshit and all the cocksucking it gets Goddamned sick of it I second this. <If it's a souls game or a souls clone it's a good game, otherwise it's shit <The gameplay or difficulty is not like souls, therefore that game is shit <every fucking video game should play like souls This "souls are the best gaem evah" meme need to fucking die already.
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>>248765 Fucking hate "Souls" games. Lost a buddy because of that. >Me playing old Monster Hunter games. >Friend is that a souls like. >Friend suddenly finds his nose broken. >>248767 I hate that fag so much. For the last time traps are not gay, most anime traps are hot blooded straight males and they sure as hell would not like being grouped in with faggots if they existed in real life.
>>248746 >Chasing fads is what happened to Sony Anon. No anon, pushing social engineering propaganda over making good games at the cost of losing money and customers is what happened at soyny.
>>248767 Spoiler that shit
Whats wrong with souls games? I quite like the weighty combat as well as the mechanics and scaling. Most games have a few alternative paths too
>>248616 >Which they never really do. Sony games can not seem to get anywhere near Nintendo numbers. It also doesn't help right now for Sony that most of the PS5 hardware sales are, for the most part, "phantom sales" (basically scalped) while the brand relies on PS+ subscription and software sales to make up the cost. Also a bit unrelated, but Nintendo used to be notoriously autistic about letting people stream their games and when the vtuber Sasaki was told that she couldn't stream Nintendo games, she sperged out big time and said she's quitting if she was unable to play them.So Sasaki's boss company had to figure out some deals with Nintendo which let her and other vtubers stream their games, and nowadays Nintendo is even sponsoring vtuber streams. Some people don't realize the sheer influential power of vtubers in Japan, and I don't recall ever seeing any of the popular ones shilling for a PS5 although the huge scalping issue may prevent that to happen in the first place (not to mention the lack of games that justify the new system). Even Nintendo has Arino and his buddy Hamaguchi participating in the regular shows hosted by the game company which influenced me to get a Switch since I'm more attached to the the Game Center CX man than to a vtuber >>248781 I like them too but they're kind of a meme when it comes to internet idiots referring them as difficult games when 90% of the time is just paying attention and learning from mistakes. If anything, Nioh really filters me for not being gud enuff because it's much more an aggressive game which doesn't have much in common with Souls besides a few elements like the enemies re-spawning on checkpoints.
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>>248846 >mfw my last console was the PS2 Feels good
>>248832 Was talking about the games Anon. I do not think any Sony game has ever busted the 20 million mark. Right now Sony is lagging way behind even with Ps4 game sales.
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>>248846 >japan studio is just Astro's Playroom factory
>>249027 Imagine being one of the many university students they hired in 2014. You get picked up by a studio that has had pretty much creative freedom for years only to get forced into doing grunt work for a tech demo for the remainder of your career.
>>248846 Just end it, they are running their video game wing like how they ran their fucking movie division, wasting years inbetween development of fucking movie games while letting the plebs get the next multiplatform bandwagon shit games, bravo Sony.
>>248500 Nintendo often gets deservedly compared to Apple because of their reliance on branding and their cult-like fanbase, but the comparison is also apt for Sony. It actually might fit Sony better than it does Nintendo given that, unlike Sony and Apple, Nintendo's appeal tends to be its exclusive software.
>>249671 My issue is that one of those cults is pushing videogames and the other is pushing interactive propaganda.
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brand sites are beginning to roll out the damage control opinion pieces; https://archive.vn/KhTxy >Was the studio and games mismanaged by Sony? >No, it was the market that was wrong.
>>248500 >folklore sequel But Folklore didn't even sell that well and the studio behind it hasn't existed for over a decade
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>>249767 MFW i thought the 7th gen was going to be games like Folklore and PS2 era games with HD graphics We entered a downward spiral in 2007 that we never were able to get out of.
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>>248509 you think *you* hate souls shit, imagine how the armored core and tenchi fans feel like after from has switched to just remixing the same fucking game over and over again?
>>249776 2007 itself was great, it was the years after when shit got really fucked for the cinematic meme and the western middle market getting fucked so AAAshits could pump out a bloated golden goose every year.
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https://jp.gamesindustry.biz/article/2102/21022602/ >Sony allocated only 5% of the PS5s to Japan >Nintendo in comparison allocated 1/4th of the Switch supply to Japan >ACE research predicts that due to scalpers Sony will start losing money due to no PS+ subscriptions from new PS5 owners >Nintendo has achieved total monopoly in Japan due to Sony's mistreatment of the Playstation >the PS4 also has only 5% of the total allocated Playstation in Japan, indicating that Sony only sees Japan as 5% of their market >Many japanese publishers have stated that they will face financial difficulties due to next gen games being in production and not being able to recoup their costs due to the PS5's low sales >Developers prefer to develop on next gen systems because they can get salary increases and other promotions that way, with Sony's mistreatment of Japan it's likely we'll see an impact on Japan's game development overall >Sony is neglecting Japan and not fulfilling it's responsibilities as a platform holder
>>250069 I hope nips drop the quintuple, even if they pick the switch instead of PC it'll be better.
>>250072 I see all consoles as an equal evil. Nintendo is arguably worse than Sony in terms of how they treat their customers. Consoles should have died two generations ago.
>>250133 Sony at least has a proper online, Nintendo asks you to pay for a shitty p2p connection. Sony doesn't care about emulators or leaking your credit card information, Nintendo will send the yakuza to stalk your house if you ever look at a jailbreak site or nintendo roms. Still, I want Sony to eat shit for fucking with nip devs.
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>>248509 >>248765 pic related >>249671 Anyone else remember how Sony's PC an mobile branch tried so hard to be like Apple, only to fail miserably in all of their attempts? Their VAIO PCs and laptops had a really nice design (specially the smaller laptops), but they were too pricey to compete in the Windows PC market and didn't have a cult big enough to support them like Apple. The whole Xperia products were more of the same. They had a really good design, ok specs, and for a time they were the only ones aside from Apple offering small devices during the time when everyone went full retard and started making increasingly big phones, but again the ridiculously high price (even compared with other high end devices) and a lack of good marketing and clear objectives doomed them.
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>>250133 >all this drivel
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>>250718 The absolute state
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>>248473 >Someone should explain to Sony that when your rival is fucking kicking your ass you should bring your A game not stick your head up your own ass and say this is fine. Anon, if you kill your enemies, they win. >>248500 >no folklore sequel It's called Coded Souls for the PSP anon. Or rather, it's a sidequel at best. > If you want western trash there's xbox. <But anon, haven't you heard? Niggers and gays are cool now, especially the gay niggers that Sony promotes, so you HAVE to buy the PS5 >>248511 Blessed digits but our best bet is just Daemon X Machina. It's literally most of the old FromSoft guard making that game. >>248514 >>249805 Don't you fucking start anons, Tenchu was the final straw from me after shitting on Armoured Core and intentionally fucking up Another Century's Episode like niggers. >>248832 Kacho's still going? Nice.
>>247709 So while Microshit is buying up every developer under the sun Soyny is axing its own studios and shunning japanese developers. Well, lads I suppose this is it, the final Playstation console. I do not really see how they could keep this shit afloat when they just axed their ships bottom.
>>250755 >It's literally most of the old FromSoft guard making that game. Damn it anon, you just reminded me that the top creatives for Armored Core made Left Alive for Squeenix. Horrible mess of a game with so much potential lost, and the only redeemable part was the art, some of the music, and the too few Wanzer combat scenarios. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh-8zFlpJ4g
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>>250801 Top creative talent means jack shit if you don't have a good director and competent programmers to see through with your vision. Guess what happened with Left Alive.
>>250815 >Left Alive I find it fucking hilarious that SE actually re-licensed denuvo for that game despite letting the pc version rot
>>250815 Game wasn't supposed to be rushed out like that, but this is modern day Squeenix, they can fellate retards like Toriyama and Nomura with bloated budgets, bigger teams, and more marketing, but this game was left to die. If you guys have time, watch every interview with the director and producer, anemic and without enthusiasism.
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>>250718 >no astro's playground faggots
>>262912 >Astro's Playground >A Mario Odyssey rip off. Its not mentioned because its not good Anon.
>>262920 >every game where you run, jump and collect things is a rip off of mario
>>250815 >Top creative talent means jack shit if you don't have a good director and competent programmers to see through with your vision. Remember this anons, especially aspiring game developers. The game designers can spend all day coming up with the coolest ideas, the musicians can the finest music to listen to, and the artists, as well as modelers, can make the most appealing art, and the writers can make compelling stories, but without programmers, people that know how to set things up and make them work, it won't matter. Without competent programmers, your game isn't getting made.
>>262924 Do you have some gay-ass possession shit like in Mayro Odyssey?
>>262924 For the last few years Sony did not give a fuck about platformers then Odyssey happens. Sony just has an autistic need to copy what ever Nintendo does. >Directs >Motion controls. >Dumb platformers. >Gaystation No-Stars featuring Donte from DmC. >Joy Con drift. Next Sony will be showing of their amazing never done before cardboard toys but with 100% more gay because rainbows on the cardboard.
>>262931 >Sony just has an autistic need to copy what ever Nintendo does. I imagine it's at least partially due to Ninty being a liked name in Nipland, and copying them in theory should help get back in their good graces. But, of course, they're so out of touch with nip gamers (not entirely due to being Califorian now, but still a significant factor) that they can't even Jew them out of their money in the ways that nips are more receptive to, anymore.
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>>262931 i think all of media molecule work disproves that and astro's stuff started in 2018 with the unfortunate reception it was a vr game. Is little big planet a rip off of mario maker too? >every game with a 2-2.5D level creator is a rip off of mario maker also yeah i would want to copy nintendo too hardware wise if youve managed to get a cult of subhumans to buy $60 worth of hardware and sell it for $300 not including people scalping the units and somehow selling it even higher than that. It would be unwise not to try.
>>262945 I can't believe Sony let LBP die. It was one of the most creative games in a while with mass appeal and had a recognizable flagship character that could have easily competed with Mario.
>>262975 Isn't a 3D LBP on PS5 now? Or announced for it or something? I'd be very interested in that if Sony hadn't become so awful in recent years. Now you'd have to pay me to play any of their new games.
>>262975 >I can't believe Sony let LBP die >had a recognizable flagship character that could have easily competed with Mario. Anon your retarded. Sackboy could never shift as many games as Mario. Compete with say Crash sure or even Sonic but Mario nah. Your fucking deluded Anon. Sony had its flagship game a racing game of all fucking things Gran Turismo but it destroyed it with shitty sequels that could not match the quality of the first three games.
>>262977 The original studio went to go make Dreams while sumo digital took over. the third game felt empty and the latest game "sackboy's adventure" removed the entire point of the game making it no longer a stylish sandbox. at that point sony was trying to make it an brand icon (again) but fucked over anyone that gave a shit about the series. So at the end of the day sony fucked up.
I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that Masami Yamamoto, Bloodborne's executive producer, revealed three days ago that he left SIE Japan in Februeary 28th: https://twitter.com/camp_masami/status/1371282282208661505 (https://archive.is/HIZoz) >I'm a little late to the party, but I'm happy to announce that I resigned from SIE Japan Studio as of 2/28. Tehe. I've been working for the Sony Group for 25 years, including my previous job at SME, and I've been very happy working at 1st as a game creator. I'd like to thank everyone for their support. Oh, I can make any PF game from now on... such a strange feeling! I believe this is the 5th person to leave Sony in the last 4 months. At this point it should be obvious that Japan is dead to Sony and the people involved are leaving a sinking ship.
>>262987 Sony's original problem is that their flagship game in the '90s wasn't actually a first party title, just a third party exclusive, Crash Bandicoot. With Sonic being MIA at the time, Crash made a decent Mario rival, but of course we all know how that got fucked up. Now, Sackboy is no Mario, he's no Sonic, he's not even a Crash, but I do think anon has a point that having a recognizable mascot could help with marketability, and Sackboy could have filled that role well. I don't really get why mascots went away in the 2000s. I don't see why companies thought they stopped being effective. I get that they wanted to market to an audience that wanted "edgier" stuff, hence Jak II being so different from Jak I, but then they could have still kept using Jak & Daxter as mascots, even in their edgier forms, but they didn't. I do think Master Chief, as a mascot for Xbox, helped their marketing tremendously. So why not keep using mascots? It seems like such an effective marketing tool, and it's one that was so well proven. Is it because third party attempts at making mascots for faceless corporations failed? It always seemed obvious to me that mascots meant to represent a corporation is not the same as a mascot that represents a console or a line of consoles. The former is just the face of a franchise, but the latter is the face of your hardware. Why drop that? Sackboy was the most logical mascot of the PS3 era, but they just let it fade away. I mean they could have used Ratchet but maybe that doesn't work in Japan. Who else did they have, Drake Fortune? Does Japan give a shit about him? Sackboy seems kawaii enough to work worldwide. But I guess they don't even care about Japan anymore, so Niel Druckmann's husbando that he fucks in Last of Us 2 is their mascot now.
>>248832 >when the vtuber Sasaki was told that she couldn't stream Nintendo games, she sperged out big time and said she's quitting if she was unable to play them.So Sasaki's boss company had to figure out some deals with Nintendo which let her and other vtubers stream their games, and nowadays Nintendo is even sponsoring vtuber streams. Some people don't realize the sheer influential power of vtubers in Japan Enabling women to decide the fate of any industry is the biggest mistake that anyone could make. This will come back to bite them all in the ass later on.
>>263066 >I don't see why companies thought they stopped being effective. Because they don't need a mascot to bring in niggercattle, their own existence is the mascot. That's got to be why so many companies fag it up on Shitter, and why they try their damnest to look like the niggercattle's friend; they're taking the mascot's place. Look at the old Traitors of America archive and look at how the soycucks suck the company's dicks, operating as if they're one person who they've grown a sentimental attachment to. Because the Shitter account is the new Mario/Sonic/Sackboy/Master Chief, et cetra. >>263070 >nip throws a shitfit over not being able to play Bing Bing Wahoo on JewTube <the kikes who own said game actually let them fucking do it >Tornigger acts as if this is a bad thing because femoids apparently always make mistakes, even if the issue is very clearly in favor of the femoid Someone needs to see if using Tor actually destroys your fucking braincells, I swear that if this anon was a clearfag, he wouldn't be so retarded.
>>250069 >Developers prefer to develop on next gen systems because they can get salary increases and other promotions that way, with Sony's mistreatment of Japan it's likely we'll see an impact on Japan's game development overall The best news of them all. Work out of passion for a hobby, you pieces of shit. Not for promotions or raised salaries.
>>263085 >game development could take a serious hit because Californian faggotry <but this is a good thing because "financial success bad" Not to defend their faggotry, but you talk like the kind of faggot who'd want to release all the animals from the zoo without thinking about the consequences for even a few seconds.
>>263085 Thing is though Japanese games are not taking a hit. Those that have embraced PC and the Switch are seeing superb sales. Sony is going to go the way of Sega and Atari. And on the subject of the Switch Nintendo dont fuck with their flagships Mario and Zelda (talking characters not gameplay faggots) in some pathetic attempt to be more "inclusive" and each new entry in both series does better than the last. Makes you think. Now if Nintendo got their fucking head out their ass and put some of these games on PC they could be making even more fucking money.
>>263093 So Link was always a cross dressing sissy?
>>263098 Not only do I think he wore girl's clothes at least once, he was never that masculine looking in any of the games to begin with. The fucker wrestles goats in Twilight Princess yet he still looks like a fucking twink.
>>263100 *at least once before
>>247709 >devs free to make whatever they want without corporate meddling telling them not to model pantsu Nice.
>>263072 >being this much of a white knight as to not realize that everything that anyone ever do to pander to women always end up being a mistake.
>>248497 B-B-But the (((media))) is reporting that PS5 has edged out the Switch as the best selling console of all time...
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>>263105 <a woman benefitting from something in any way is a bad thing, and to imply otherwise makes you a white knight You're trying too hard to fit in, Tornigger.
>>263107 I think that guy is an unironic incel, he constantly bitches about women 24/7 for no reason.
>>263107 It's the huenigger, just laugh at him and tell him he'll never be white.
Lately I've been having very confusing feelings. I'm starting to like Sonygger, but only because they are doing all the right things in order to drive their shitty company into the ground, they finally managed to entertain me just as much as any game they could ever produce. >>263163 This, how new are you guys that you don't even recognize the huemonkey by now?
>>263107 He's not wrong. Not only are you talking about a woman, but an e-whore.
>>263389 >he's not wrong Both of you are. If she was an e-whore, she'd show her tits a bunch and shake down faggots for their shekels in exchange for cleavage shots.
>>263438 Just because she does relatively softcore stuff doesn't mean that isn't exactly what she's doing. It doesn't mean that isn't exactly why her pathetic audience watches her.
>>263445 Or they just want to see someone play videogames, you dumb faggot. In fact, what exactly is this softcore shit you're talking about?
>>250718 It's like they are saying "see these cool games? You'll never ever see anything like that on GayStation anymore." Fuck that kike-infested company.
>>263447 >Or they just want to see someone play videogames, you dumb faggot. >likes watching, or at least defends others who like watching others play video games >calls someone else a faggot. And I'm sure this e-whore's audience were not watching her because of her sex at all. That doesn't happen. No way.
>>248500 >>no folklore sequel Fuck that game. I'm not playing through the exact same game twice with absolutely zero changes to the mechanics just to see the ending. Shit was boring as hell, so I stopped when I realized it wasn't doing anything different for the second character's story.
>>263107 >a woman benefitting from something in any way is a bad thing, and to imply otherwise makes you a white knight Again, unironically, yes.
>>249776 >>249786 >That poor old man
Remember when sony made an Ape Escape 20th anniversary twitter account last year and ended it with nothing but "lol bye, follow japan studio's account for further Ape Escape news"? https://archive.vn/tjnsI Good times
>>250718 Do corporate japs not get offended when they see some asshole like this BLATANTLY reading off a script because he can't be bothered to actually learn Japanese?


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