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Netflix Castlevania animated series final season premieres May 13 Anonymous 04/17/2021 (Sat) 21:54:18 Id:9f2534 No. 287277
The upcoming 10-episode fourth season of Netflix’s anime series Castlevania will be its last, Deadline has learned. It will premiere May 13. While Castlevania, based on the classic Konami video game, will be coming to an end, the world it created may live on. Netflix is eyeing a new series set in the same Castlevania universe with an entirely new cast of characters likely based off Rondo of Blood. Additionally Netflix will be going forward with its adaptation of Devil May Cry. So /v/, how do you feel about Alucard getting fucked in the ass by Netflix all over again? https://archive.vn/JL6oS
Stopped watching when they made Alucard take a cock up the ass.
>>287279 I don't blame you, I'm also worried they're gonna make Dante gay next.
>>287277 >While Castlevania, based on the classic Konami video game, will be coming to an end, the world it created may live on. Netflix is eyeing a new series set in the same Castlevania universe with an entirely new cast of characters likely based off Rondo of Blood God, I shudder to imagine what's going to happen to Richter and Maria. Well, Richter's probably okay since Japan'll riot if something happens to a lead Belmont which is why Alucard and Hector got the short ends of the stick, but Maria's a loli at the time so god knows what they fuck'll happen there. On the plus side, Warren Ellis, the guy who was leading the first 3 seasons got #Metoo'd a while ago and forced into disgraced retirement, so whoever's replacing him probably doesn't have as much of a religious hateboner r-right?
>>287277 While im glad they finally gave alucard his signature weapons, i will never forgive them for making alucard gay, he was one of the few non-gay vampires for fucks sake. But i am glad they didnt skip the fact taht trevor getting the hots for magical girls is what gave the belmonts their magic powers down the line.
>>287293 They're gonna make a new series with Soma Cruz and turn him into a faggot just like Alucard. Cause you know, every twink character needs to be a homo according to western writers.
>>287302 Can alucard really be called a twink? Hes more or less the same size as richter, and richter is a buff guy.
>>287305 I think he meant a bishie/pretty boy character.
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>>287293 >Additionally Netflix will be going forward with its adaptation of Devil May Cry. Wait shit, I completely skipped over that, fucking hell I thought that got cancelled. Goddammit Itsuno you stupid westaboo retard >>287302 Throw in a clumsy retcon about Dracula being bisexual before meeting Lisa, turn Mina Hakuba into a bitch, and make Graham Jones a DRUMPF knockoff and I can buy it entirely.
>>287279 But you kept watching after they made the Belmonts anti-church?
>>287309 What about julius? Will he be a jobber and the whole battle of '99 be a cover up for dindu vampires?
>>287277 I think I just wont watch it instead. The last season ended with such garbage that I got disgusted and lost all interest. I barely watch/pirate anything netflix, but I guess shoehorning in some shitty sex scenes to convince idiots its a mature show is the norm there?
>>287313 The actual church was corrupt as hell in the middle ages, so yeah, I wasn't particularly triggered by that.
>>287314 Julius either won't be allowed to show up due to petty politics from Konami about IGA, made into Soma's gay lover, or sit in the background in irrelevance. >>287316 Blame Gay of Thrones for starting a game of follow-the-leader.
>>287323 >due to petty politics from Konami about IGA What a shame, specially since iga has said that he would be willing to work on a new castlevania if given proper conditions.
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You know, I always envisioned a Castlevania animated adaptation to be something really fucking metal, like the way Rondo felt to me when I first played it. With as little story as possible. Like Vampire Hunter D or something, instead we got this faggotry
>>287277 Why subject yourself to this torture. Of course everything kikeflix makes is going to be cancer. Don't give this shit the attention.
>>287332 Ignoring potential problems (like normalfags having this as their only experience to Castlevania since the series has been dead for years, which will prompt Konami to try and leak it into the games to "attract the new audience" ala Marvel and MCU synergy tanking MVC Infinite) doesn't make them go away.
>>287327 I was hoping something like Hellsing. Fuck, I liked Hellsing so much when even the Nazis are the bad guys I still enjoyed it. The Vampire Hunter D OVA is one of my favorite anime OVAs as well. When I watched Castlevania I felt nothing. All the characters have retarded dialogue and make annoying wisecrack jokes. The action scenes were bland and not exciting. The animation looks ugly. They turn Isaac into an muslim nigger and Alucard into a faggot. Made Hector bitchmade, which he wasn't at all in Curse of Darkness. Fuck this gay ass show and everyone involved in making it.
>>287277 Reminder this fag series has been shit from the first frame, ignore all apologists who cuck for the muh first season was ok meme.
>>287327 >>287339 We probably would've got a proper Castlevania anime akin to VHD or Hellsing if Konami had actual Japanese studio adapt their Japanese series instead of Americans and their Korean sweatshops.
>>287277 I wonder where those double niggers who kept shilling and defending that jewflix faux anime shit every time we had a Castlevania thread a couple of years ago. Also daily reminder that people who never heard or played Castlevania games have shilled this shit from pedowpod hell and back, really makes you think. AND Warren Ellis is a fuckwad.
You're all forgetting the fact that this trashfire decided that the series with some of the most energetic and memorable music in vidya should be represented by ambient synthshit in the adaptation, and that it should animate at a silky smooth -5 FPS and that the main character should be a mumbling drunkard voiced by a mumbling drunkard.
>>287277 The entire series probably adds up to 1 and a half seasons of a show with a normal episode count. And yet watching it feels worse than watching the entirety of naruto. >>287309 He or capcom anyway allowed netflix's dogma, so what did you expect. Though I'd say that show was at least better than netflixvania."Western anime" is trash, no exceptions.
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>>287603 Now thats the biggest sin.
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>>287277 1. Not vidya. 2. Not even related to vidya 3. Your mother should've swallowed >>287293 > Well, Richter's probably okay since Japan'll riot if something happens to a lead Belmont which is why Alucard and Hector got the short ends of the stick It's cute how you think the shitlicks at Netflix give the faintest of fucks what Japan thinks. >got #Metoo'd a while ago and forced into disgraced retirement, so whoever's replacing him probably doesn't have as much of a religious hateboner >He thinks the pain will actually end
>>287332 netdix*, retard
>>287652 How was netflix Dragon's Dogma anyway?
>>287277 Remember that buying products and supporting companies lead to better products.
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<<288736 >Giving money shitty companies makes them better! Fuck you, I bet you're posting from a Canadian IP
>>287691 >2. Not even related to vidya Not the OP but it's obviously related to vidya.
>>288759 Anon, I was being sarcastic. Mark and his scalper buyfags are sperging on all boards against the idea of boycotting companies. There is a shill that shows up on many threads trying to convince people to keep buying instead of pirating (or straight up stealing hardware, like everyone should be doing) using that fallacy of "keep supporting" that I posted above.
>Luciano is so autistic he can't convincingly post sarcasm
I hope you're all ready for a DMC anime by these faggots. Cause that's next on the chopping block. >>287691 >2. Not even related to vidya Castlevania confirmed for not being a video game
>>288931 Then what is castlevania?
>>288931 >>288944 I think he means that none of this fanfiction Netflix shit is Castlevania.
>>288947 But it is vidya related like it or not, it would be like talking about the upcoming MK movie or the resident evil movies.
>>288972 Mock you relentlessly for being a Brazilian subhuman
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>>288959 But you faggots DON'T talk about the Resident Evil movies. That's the point. This shit ain't vidya, it's just railing at anti-christian homos who have all the power and all the money to corrupt the generations coming up behind us. God I fucking hate this planet.
>>289112 >But you faggots DON'T talk about the Resident Evil movies Only because nobody's made a thread for it yet.
>>289117 Because no one cares to acknowledge that trash. Go into the Monster Hunter thread and mention the shit movie. See how quick you get laughed at.
>>289119 >>289117 I've discussed RE movies countless times faggot. And the first one is actually good
>>289123 Congrats on being contrarian that means all of dick though.
>>287277 They spent 80% of the second season in a fucking library isntead of the actual castle where in the games everyone knows where the fuck it is. Thats why I called the show Libraryvania afterwords and dropped it, its middle school humor and writing, disrespect to the source material and no Grant was enough to make me drop it. Like seriously. What the fuck happened to Grant? Why wasn't he there? >>288759 >not filtering every single tor user on sight. You are a game to these retards anon and by responding to their shit you are getting played. >>289112 >God I fucking hate this planet. Then leave faggot. I hear they have pretty good rocks and dirt on mars. :^)
>>289131 >Like seriously. What the fuck happened to Grant? Why wasn't he there? A combination of being removed for time constraints when the series was originally just a short movie trilogy, and Warren Ellis apparently thinking a pirate in a landlocked region was retarded.
>>289131 I WOULDNT HAVE TO FILTER SHIT ON SIGHT IF I COULD FUCKING APPLY A GLOBAL USER FILTER INSTEAD OF PER THREAD
>>289149 You don't have to "filter" anything. Just ignore things you don't like, faggot. You shouldn't even be able to filter per thread since it relies on IDs and destroys anonymity. Why don't you just go to Twitter? Then you can just block everyone who triggers you.
Anons, it's not just that DMC's next after Castlevania's done getting raped. They're making a multiverse. https://archive.is/OiaOT https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/11/16/devil-may-cry-series-joins-castlevania-in-new-multiverse-from-adi-shankar >Shankar, in an exclusive interview with IGN's Jacki Jing, also revealed that his Devil May Cry series “will join Castlevania in what we’re now calling the bootleg multiverse.” >While Shankar didn't give us any specifics in terms of what this all means for the series' overall story, he did inform us that he "acquired these (Devil May Cry) rights myself so the jabronis in Hollywood don’t f*** this one up too." Shankar's financial investment should allow him more creative freedom, as he begins to build this wildly ambitious multiverse of his.
>>295004 How fun. We can point to stuff like Smash Bros and SRW for getting this kind of shit right and this for being fucking awful.
>>295004 >acquired these (Devil May Cry) rights myself so the jabronis in Hollywood don’t f*** this one up too This fucking guy.
>>295004 >>295039 They could at least pretend not to be anti establishment while also being part of the establishment.
>>295015 There is nothing wrong with SRW faggot other than not being commercially available in the west, maybe stop pulling shit from your ass.
>>295004 >2018 Old news.
>>295004 They better keep their grubby little hands off of Viewtiful Joe, it already has an anime and it's good.
>>295052 You read my post backwards.
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Imagine being so creatively bankrupt you have to raid videogame franchises of all things looking for worlds to host your cattle propaganda.
>>295061 Oh, my bad. Smash Bros is pretty gay though, so I naturally assumed you meant they both were shit.
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>>295004 >They're making a multiverse. So... like, what.. it's going to end up being like Captain N, except it takes itself far too seriously?
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>>295004 Netflix requires niggers and faggots in the show to be approved. Nero will get bummed by Alucard.
>>295084 >The old white guy in the back wondering why he didn't stop this when he had the chance Absolutely beautiful.
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>>295058 What is it about that era of vidya anime and really cool OPs?
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>>295092 Direct input from the people that worked on the source material probably helped. Hiroyuki Kobayashi was involved with the DMC anime, Atsushi Inaba oversaw the production of the Viewtiful Joe anime, and Masahiro Sakurai supervised Kirby of the Stars just to name a few. The problem with modern show/movie adaptations of video game franchises is that big name companies think they can just obtain the rights to produce media and expecting them to sell on their name alone, ignoring any of the soul that went into making the source material. Just look at the Sonic movie, Paramount was happy just pumping out some schlock featuring a creature that vaguely resembles the source and slapping the Sonic name on it expecting drooling fans to just gobble it up.
>>295119 >Just look at the Sonic movie, Paramount was happy just pumping out some schlock featuring a creature that vaguely resembles the source and slapping the Sonic name on it expecting drooling fans to just gobble it up. Given they're making a sequel, I guess they were right to expect the soys to throw money. Worst part is, it looks like they actually care more about Sonic lore than Sonic Team does since they actually remember G.U.N exists.
>>295130 >Given they're making a sequel, I guess they were right to expect the soys to throw money Sonic fans are desperate for decent content after an ocean of tech demos released as fully priced games, a passable children's movie is a godsend to them. >it looks like they actually care more about Sonic lore than Sonic Team does Understanding of the franchise and its fandom goes a long way. If they introduced Jaleel White as Maddie Wachowski's dad/older brother in the new movie they would eat it up.
>>295130 The success was probably largely from the simple fact that they were willing to give in to the fans and fix the horrible design at least. It was the first ruined franchise/adaptation to not just double down and openly hate the fans, so the fans rewarded it, even though the script of the movie was still horrible.
>>295271 >even though the script of the movie was still horrible Has there ever been a well written Sonic game?
>>295275 Just go to any Sonic thread and see autists discussing them. They were pretty much all well written, including the 2D Genesis games, until Colors came out and gave in to the casuals who said Sonic never had a story and shouldn't have a story. The autistic shit was always there, but (((localizers))) butchered it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ujImBnWu88 There was so much they could have adapted but instead just ignored. Of course, that's what every Sonic adaptation except the current comics have done.
>>295281 >There was so much they could have adapted but instead just ignored >"Hey guys look, Chaos is in Forces!" <"But fuck you he dies in a cutscene fight Zavok instead" Sonic Team is in desperate need of new blood; The modding scene has been picking up the slack for far too long.
>>295281 >>295406 That's just a bunch of horseshit from autists jerking themselves off over loosely written "lore" that's all connected with head canon faggotry, similar to what you saw with Zeldaniggers. Sonic does not have some overarching lore that was slaved over for decades, at best there are little hints and callouts to past games just put in because fan pandering. And if you think any of that ass-pulled "lore" can actually lend itself to genuinely good writing, congrats, you are truly an illiterate nigger that can't be trusted to write a picture book. But lore niggers tend to be retarded anyways because only a moron thinks world building can be a substitute for plot and characterization. >>295275 Sonic Adventure 1 has a "decent" story if you're 8, Gamma notwithstanding, he was genuinely well-written.
>>295453 It's very clear that Sonic Team did have a story in mind when creating the original games, and slowly built this story until it culminates in Sonic Adventure, where they are able to show everything more explicitly, with dialogue and cutscenes, and thus give more details to things that were previously only alluded to. That said, I would say that especially those games that lacked dialogue had good stories, specifically because they were able to tell their stories without dialogue, and without distracting from the gameplay, which is what a video game story should do. At the same time, the fact that the stories were given a backseat to the gameplay is why it would be interesting to see them adapted. There's no point in adapting a game that is already heavily story focused to another medium, because we already see the story very clearly. Adapting a game that has a story, but one that is functionally secondary to the gameplay, is more interesting, since then you have a reason to give the story more spotlight and flesh it out more. >Sonic does not have some overarching lore that was slaved over for decades, at best there are little hints and callouts to past games just put in because fan pandering. Not decades, but a decade and a half, then they decided to stop having a story. It's not about little hints and callouts, it's that they built upon the elements that were already established. It starts small, but after five or six games, it gets pretty complex. The first game just says the Chaos Emeralds can cause destruction if misused. The second game says they destroyed an ancient civilization in the past, and gods had to intervene. The third game introduces a remnant of that civilization (Knuckles) and adds the Master Emerald stuff, and also refers to a dragon that brings destruction, and then Sonic Adventure has the dragon, who was powered by the emeralds and destroyed the civilization in the past, come back to do it again in the present. The plots of each game build upon the previous ones, and over time that naturally creates more complexity. And why not do that? Why not actually refer to the previous stuff that was so good you're making a sequel or adaptation of it? At the very least, it creates a sense of consistency. Also, if you're referring to Zeldaniggers because of timelinefaggotry, the only reason that's annoying is because they act like they needed that one book to come out before they could figure out the timeline, but if you simply play the games in release order, it's very clear where each game takes place in relation to at least one other game, and thus you get a timeline going. Anyone who needed the book to figure it just didn't play the games. >Sonic Adventure 1 has a "decent" story if you're 8 It has a good story for what it sets out to do. The plot is fairly simple, but works effectively as the culmination of the story arc that ran through all the previous games. Also, the reason it's good is more the presentation than the plot. The way it's told through six interconnecting stories that begin and end at different times is cool. Each character has their own story that works on its own, but when you put them all together like a puzzle (since they aren't in chronological order), you see the bigger picture. Having the little bits of the bigger picture revealed to you one at a time as you play through the game is cool. Especially if you're not playing like an autist, and trying out each character a little bit at a time, instead of just beating each story before you move onto the next. Also, the way you can explore and find a great deal of story-related content that is completely optional by talking to NPCs is interesting. Many of them have their own arcs, but again, you have to piece them together since the game isn't played in chronological order. There are even parts that seem rather important, but are left optional. For example, everyone makes fun of Tails saying "Everything turned out okay!" at the end of the game, even though the city is destroyed and it looks like millions of people died. But if you go to Station Square during Super Sonic's story, which you're never required to do, you'll find that almost everyone has left due to Eggman's missile attack at the end of Tails' story, and the few that remain say they are about to leave as well. So don't worry, nobody died.
>>295505 >It's very clear that Sonic Team did have a story in mind when creating the original games, and slowly built this story until it culminates in Sonic Adventure Nope >I would say that especially those games that lacked dialogue had good stories, specifically because they were able to tell their stories without dialogue It was a simple effective framework to give you context for Sonic does what he does as controlled by the player. Sonic was not meant for storytelling. >a bunch of rationalization of autistic horseshit I think I've think I've argued with you here before. Regardless, I don't care. None of this refutes that these games are for children and the "stories" reflect that. They have shit writing if you are outside of the target demo for kids and you can read above a 4th grade level. >Also, if you're referring to Zeldaniggers because of timelinefaggotry, the only reason that's annoying is because they act like they needed that one book to come out before they could figure out the timeline, but if you simply play the games in release order, it's very clear where each game takes place in relation to at least one other game, and thus you get a timeline going. Jokes on you, Miyamoto said in that same book Zelda never had an overarching timeline and it was never meant to. That book was published so retards would stop pestering Nintendo about MUH LORE MUH TIMELINE. Loreniggers are almost the antithesis to writing itself. Cramming your fictional universe with autistic minutiae and stringing events together out of head canon does not equate to actual storytelling.
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>>289137 >Warren Ellis apparently thinking a pirate in a landlocked region was retarded. Stupid nigger doesn't even know that bandits were a thing. >gif related >>295004 >2nd gif related They are raping every game I know and love. I bet monster hunter will be next.
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>>295528 You already have the live action Hollywood movie based on the crossover with MGS, featuring the director's wife as the main character.
>>295512 >It was a simple effective framework to give you context for Sonic does what he does as controlled by the player. Sonic was not meant for storytelling. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. Its story was made for a video game, and thus primarily to facilitate gameplay. That's what makes it a good video game story. That doesn't mean that it can't still be a good story in general. What it does mean is that the story is told in a way that allows the gameplay to always shine first, which is why it could be interesting to see it told in an adaptation to a more story-focused medium. But so far, all of the Sonic adaptations have went out of their way to make their stories take place in entirely different worlds with entirely different backstories and casts of characters. The only exception is the modern IDW comic, but that's telling new stories that take place after the latest game, and is still focusing highly on OCs instead of fleshing out the characters and concepts from the source material which, due to their medium, are there, but not very fleshed out. >None of this refutes that these games are for children and the "stories" reflect that. This is not at all a bad thing. 'When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.' >They have shit writing if you are outside of the target demo for kids and you can read above a 4th grade level. If you could think above a 12 year old level you'd be able to appreciate children's stories. Especially since you're on /v/, either you should be able to enjoy childish things as an adult, or you are just an actual childish idiot, afraid of liking things that seem just a bit too childish for you. Can't appreciate this thing for 8 year olds, because you're big and grown up, like a 12 year old. >Jokes on you, Miyamoto said in that same book Zelda never had an overarching timeline and it was never meant to. Miyamoto didn't make all those games by himself. Zelda II makes clear where it takes place in relation to Zelda I. Ocarina of Time makes clear where it takes place in relation to Link to the Past. Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword all make clear where they take place in relation to Ocarina of Time. By extension, they all make clear where they take place in relation to each other. That covers all the main games right there. Link's Awakening makes clear that it takes place after Link to the Past. Oracle of Ages & Seasons is the first one that is a little less explicit, but is heavily implied in cutscenes to take place before Link's Awakening. Minish Cap is clearly a prequel and the earliest in the timeline at that point (and Skyward Sword later clearly takes place before that). I suppose Four Swords and Four Swords Adventures are pretty ambiguous to their placement, but they're also weird multiplayer spinoffs. Triforce Heroes is probably the same way but I never beat it because it's just a worse version of the Four Swords games. The two DS games are extremely explicit in that they take place in the future of Wind Waker. A Link Between Worlds is extremely explicit in taking place after Link to the Past. Honestly, the only game aside from the multiplayer ones that isn't extremely explicit about its timeline placement is, ironically, Link to the Past, which really could be a complete reboot. But of course the name gives it away as a prequel. Then again, the name is different in Japan, where it is Triforce of the Gods, but I haven't read the Japanese manual or box, so for all I know, the manual establishes it as a prequel. I assume that the western translators didn't just make up the prequel thing all on their own, but then again, knowing western translators, it's a distinct possibility. >Cramming your fictional universe with autistic minutiae and stringing events together out of head canon does not equate to actual storytelling. No, it does not. But sometimes stories develop from them. I would not say the Zelda timeline is a story. It's just an interesting setting for stories, and most of those stories are themselves not meant to be much more than excuse plots. This is different from Sonic, where each of the main games in the series built upon the previous ones until they culminated in a climax to a longer story arc. That said, yes, it's still a video game story made mostly in service to the gameplay, but I would call it a story, and would be interested in seeing it adapted in a more story-focused medium. In the process of making stories to serve the gameplay, but ensuring that each one built upon the elements that came before, there ended up being an actual arc with actual characters, and this can be seen quite clearly when the stories did become more explicit with the Dreamcast. Also, Sonic's stories are like 90% ripoffs of Dragon Ball Z, which obviously has a story. So I don't know why you're even arguing this. Call it a ripoff and few would argue with you, but the story is there.
>>287277 i wonder how they can butcher this series even more
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>>295541 I'll check the manual right now and tell you. I would say there's absolutely nothing that says anything about whether its even connected to the NES Zelda games. The 3 gods, the master sword, sealing war, and all that jazz is completely new. https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clvs/manuals/ja/pdf/CLV-P-VAAEJ.pdf #1 It completely contradicts the story of Skyward Sword. It says that 3 gods were responsible for creation, not 1. 3 gods who descended into an empty void and created order from chaos, and after finishing left the triforce, the symbol of their power. It also says that the Hylian race is the closet kin of the gods and that's why they have long ears so they can hear the gods, plus possess sharp senses, and magic (I guess Zelda girls count as monstergirls after all since the manual clearly states they are anything but ordinary Earthing humans?) #2 It's clearly set some time after Ocarina of Time because it talks about a thief called Ganondorf discovering the triforce and how that was the birth of the evil king Ganon who threatens Hyrule, as well as the seven sages (whose names were found in Zelda 2 towns, and later Ocarina of Time!). The game manual also states it to take place several centuries after the sealing war, but the sealing war itself seems to contradict the narrative of Ocarina of Time, because it says they couldn't find a hero to wield the master sword and had to seal Ganon away instead of destroying him, but Link clearly was present wielding the master sword in OOT, wasn't he?
>>295594 So it doesn't at any point make reference to being a prequel to the previous two games? Yeah, it makes up a lot of new stuff, but I would have assumed there was some line just outright saying it takes place in the past of the other games, like there is in the western version, just because that's such a gigantic invention for the western version to make. If it really is just an invention of localizers, I find it interesting that so few people are aware of that. The Zelda fanbase is notoriously autistic, and you'd think they'd know about that. >I guess Zelda girls count as monstergirls after all since the manual clearly states they are anything but ordinary Earthing humans? I'm pretty sure it's just like how a lot of religions say their people are closer to their gods. Jews think they're the chosen ones. Doesn't Japanese mythology say that they are descended from the gods? >but the sealing war itself seems to contradict the narrative of Ocarina of Time, because it says they couldn't find a hero to wield the master sword and had to seal Ganon away instead of destroying him, but Link clearly was present wielding the master sword in OOT, wasn't he? This is probably why most of the timeline autism happened in the first place. It's a clear contradiction, and people then easily assumed that the legends were slightly distorted over time, and that the backstory of any one game may not necessarily be intended to be taken literally. They assumed Link saved the day in Ocarina of Time, but by Link to the Past, he was forgotten. However, they were missing the simplest explanation, which is to take everything literally, and say that Link to the Past is what happens when Link loses. Personally, I don't like the explanation that Link loses to Ganon in the final fight, because they could have just as easily said that Link to the Past happens in one of the timelines left without a Link after Link went back in time. Technically, you only need to go back in time a single time to beat the game. However, I suppose the issue there would be that the Triforce was inside Link all along, so by this logic, the Triforce shouldn't exist in a timeline where Link doesn't exist. But then it exists in Wind Waker, and the Hero of Time went back in time in the backstory of that, so I don't think it's an issue. It's a magic macguffin, and one can just say it appears in the chosen one, not that it has to physically go from one chosen one to the next. How is Hylia connected to Din, Nayru, and Farore, anyway? Is it really just an egregious case of a new guy getting power and shoving his own idea in at the expense of things that came before, like Inafune pushing Zero so hard even though he barely looks or acts like a Mega Man?
>>295594 >I guess Zelda girls count as monstergirls after all since the manual clearly states they are anything but ordinary Earthing humans? What /monster/ does and doesn't consider a monstergirl has no consistency beyond appearance. They'd consider cyborgs to be monstergirls even though they're just completely human women with bionics. >>295603 >I'm pretty sure it's just like how a lot of religions say their people are closer to their god The difference is with Hylians its canon, at least with Zelda herself.
>>295603 >So it doesn't at any point make reference to being a prequel to the previous two games? Nope. None whatsoever. Actually, neither does the US manual, which seems to be a reasonably faithful translation, aside from some terminology changes like Sacred Realm > Golden Land. https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clvs/manuals/common/pdf/CLV-P-SAAEE.pdf > I'm pretty sure it's just like how a lot of religions say their people are closer to their gods. Jews think they're the chosen ones. Doesn't Japanese mythology say that they are descended from the gods? No, it says that the emperor is a living demigod descended from the Sun Goddess Amaterasu. That's why the US forced him to declare himself a mere mortal during the occupation. The ordinary Japanese have no descent from the gods. That's why they used to believe fanatically that they must die in the service of the emperor. >How is Hylia connected to Din, Nayru, and Farore, anyway? I have no clue. I don't even remember them being mentioned in Skyward Sword. It sure seems like it, but then I thought Aonuma has been in charge of every single mainline Zelda game barring the NES ones?
>>295541 I don't care about refuting your walls of autistic rationalization since it's just a waste of energy arguing with a wall, but >Also, Sonic's stories are like 90% ripoffs of Dragon Ball Z Nice comparison considering Dragon Ball is notorious for legendary plot holes, continuity errors and straight up bad characterization, not to mention pacing problems. Luckily that's offset by DB's real attraction of puns and cool fights. Just like how Sonic's bad writing is offset by how fun the games are (or used to be). >So I don't know why you're even arguing this Because is bad writing is bad writing is bad fucking writing, and no amount of autism can change that. Your DBZ comparison is proof enough of that. I hope you read more books anon, you sound like you need it.
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>>295603 Actually, in fact, it's on the back of the box that it explicitly says that Triforce of the Gods is set before the original Zelda games, so it wasn't just some shit the translators made up after all. >今度の舞台はリンクが活躍した頃よりも遥か昔、ハイラルがまだ一つの王国であった時代。 >This time, it's set in a time long before Link's time, when Hyrule was still a single kingdom.
>>295453 >And if you think any of that ass-pulled "lore" can actually lend itself to genuinely good writing, congrats, you are truly an illiterate nigger that can't be trusted to write a picture book. But lore niggers tend to be retarded anyways because only a moron thinks world building can be a substitute for plot and characterization. > only a moron thinks world building can be a substitute for plot and characterization. Don't mind me I wholeheartedly agree and am just emphasizing the most important part of your statement.
>>295453 >>295670 What do you think about Dark Souls
>>295675 Haven't played it don't care
>>295676 Thats disappointing there was really something that could have been said,
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>>295678 I played Demon's Souls. The lore nuggets were interesting and did some things to color the world, but don't make for a pointed lack of active storytelling. Fun in its way but you very seldom were given a direct reason to care/not care about Boletaria's fate vs the demons. As a sight-seeing tour function, passive lore serves some kind of function. But it should never substitute actual narrative and storytelling. You can see that emphasized easily in just how many retards gobbled up the remake without caring one whit about the various "diversity" changes that actively altered the quality of the passive lore. Had Demon's Souls actually sported a story, far more people would've been in an uproar. Destiny goes through the same problem: D2 is an absolute shitshow because the idiots writing took its lore and mistook it for story, thus the whole franchise is a dysfunctional shitshow that doesn't have any true function, and loses even more with every "update". In other words: >only a moron thinks world building can be a substitute for plot and characterization.
>>295682 Exactly right.
>>295638 >Nice comparison considering Dragon Ball is notorious for legendary plot holes, continuity errors and straight up bad characterization, not to mention pacing problems. The pacing problems are anime exclusive due to it catching up to the manga and then trying to continue for another 300 episodes or whatever. Plotholes and continuity errors are again almost always because of filler, and even then, overstated. The original manga has remarkably few inconsistencies, if any. I'd also disagree with the characterization angle, but that is subjective. >Luckily that's offset by DB's real attraction of puns and cool fights. Just like how Sonic's bad writing is offset by how fun the games are (or used to be). This is another subjective point, and one that I think is perfectly fair. But it does have a story beyond excuse plots. That was my point. >Because is bad writing is bad writing is bad fucking writing, and no amount of autism can change that. Your DBZ comparison is proof enough of that. I strongly disagree that either of those series have bad writing. I'd gladly argue with you about it for a very long time, but it doesn't seem like you're interested in that. Also, a certain amount of autism can indeed change what you like. For example, you don't have enough autism to be bothered to understand the stories you're complaining about, and write off my attempts to explain them as "rationalization." No, it's moreso that you're too dumb to understand the story of a video game (and a manga) made for small children. And that's fine, but it doesn't make it bad. >I hope you read more books anon, you sound like you need it. I'm sure your very fancy taste would put me to shame. Only high-brow literature for high-brow individuals like yourself. Of course, given that we're on /v/, there's about a 90% chance that the only novels you've ever read are about Halo or 40k, and even if that isn't the case, simply being here should be a clear enough indication that you really have no high horse to stand on in this sort of discussion. There is no point trying to act like you're fancy on a video games imageboard that only exists because the last site we were on banned lolicon. But again, if you were truly well read, you would be able to see the art in things that are considered low-brow or not worth the time of those who call themselves the arbiters of taste. Some men can read War and Peace and come away thinking it's a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe. >>295633 >I have no clue. I don't even remember them being mentioned in Skyward Sword. It sure seems like it, but then I thought Aonuma has been in charge of every single mainline Zelda game barring the NES ones? Wiki says Hylia is actually a lower goddess than them, and that they trusted her with the Triforce and the Sacred Realm. >>295641 Interesting how the one game that nobody is confused on the timeline of is the one that makes the smallest reference to its actual placement, with only a small blurb on the back of the box, and no references in the game itself or even the manual. Meanwhile, every other game is extremely explicit in its placement, and everyone acts confused over them. >>295682 >As a sight-seeing tour function, passive lore serves some kind of function. But it should never substitute actual narrative and storytelling. This is very true. However, especially when it comes to video games, sometimes you don't want a very complex story, since it may just distract from the gameplay. You might not want lots of dialogue or cutscenes or info in the manual that you need to read. But you might be able to get some backstory and such established in the background, and that's cool. it's not a story, but it can be cool in the context of a video game. And since we're talking about adaptations, those bits of "lore" can then be used to flesh out a video game story when adapting it to a different medium.
>>295740 >Plotholes and continuity errors are again almost always because of filler, and even then, overstated Nigger they're in the manga too. >The original manga has remarkably few inconsistencies, if any. Congrats on not reading it. >I'd also disagree with the characterization angle, but that is subjective. Wrong, and it's objective. Having characters that exhibit some change or growth, that has chemistry with other characters, and/or are just well-defined, makes for objectively good storytelling. I sincerely hope you never write anything on your own, you'd get laughed out the door. >I'm sure your very fancy taste would put me to shame. Only high-brow literature for high-brow individuals like yourself. Of course, given that we're on /v/, there's about a 90% chance that the only novels you've ever read are about Halo or 40k No, you just sound like someone who's only played vidya as your only source of reading material. In fact, you sound just like the type of moron who's only read books about Halo and 40K. >There is no point trying to act like you're fancy on a video games imageboard that only exists because the last site we were on banned lolicon. And just because you're on this same board doesn't mean you can be an illiterate faggot or not be called out on being an unread retard who thinks muh lore muh world building are the only things you need for writing. >But again, if you were truly well read, you would be able to see the art in things that are considered low-brow or not worth the time of those who call themselves the arbiters of taste The writing in games like Sanic and manga like DBZ is bad fucking art. Please anon, take a break from vidya and see there's more to read out there. Better yet, practice your own writing and see what counts most. Protip: autistic lore is, at best, good window dressing for what actually happens in a story.
>>295753 >Nigger they're in the manga too. Feel free to list some. The closest it really gets is when they say that Goku spent time in the Room of Spirit and Time as a kid, but then you remember that he had difficulty with 10x gravity on Kaio's planet. But then they do say Goku had extreme difficulty with the Room of Spirit and Time as a kid, so we can assume it was even worse then when he was on Kaio's planet. >Having characters that exhibit some change or growth, that has chemistry with other characters, and/or are just well-defined, makes for objectively good storytelling. All of those things do happen. Also, words like "well" are subjective. >No, you just sound like someone who's only played vidya as your only source of reading material. You sound like an insecure child, or some hipster liberal arts major. Same thing, I suppose. >unread retard who thinks muh lore muh world building are the only things you need for writing. I specifically argued against this point. I suppose you're so unread that you couldn't even read the post you're replying to. >The writing in games like Sanic and manga like DBZ is bad fucking art. You don't get to decide what art is. Again, it's ironic how the people who look down on things like this are usually just themselves too stupid to understand them beyond anything but the most surface level. Now, that's not to say either one is particularly deep, but that is not to say either one is bad. They know what they are and accomplish what they set out to do. They have stories that work well with their premises, those being a video game and a manga about karate for ten year olds. But in these genres, they manage to have stories that are complex without being distracting, characters that people have consistently found interesting, and even occasionally themes and messages that, again, don't hit you over the head, but provide thematic consistency and something to think about, if you want. Or don't. Because mostly they're about going fast and doing karate, but there is a little bit under the surface if you want to look, and that's more than they really needed to do. >Protip: autistic lore is, at best, good window dressing for what actually happens in a story. This is literally what I was arguing.
>>295682 >saberchu At this point I'm surprised it isn't canon
>>295740 >I strongly disagree that either of those series have bad writing. Anon, why do you think the Dragon Ball series has good writing? At the end of the day, even when they do pull off something well, it's shonen, not Star Trek. The characters win most of the time because they're stronger or unlock a transformation that makes them stronger, not because they outsmarted the enemy or exploited a weakness. Though, I will be fair and say some of it might be due to mangaka deadlines. Take Raditz for example. He's Goku's brother. You'd think Toriyama would have done more with him over the years, but he hasn't. Also, anyone have that ancient post describing Dragon Ball Z in professional wrestling terms?
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>>295785 It's not only canon, it's OTHER canons.
>>295771 >Feel free to list some. <17 giving energy to the genki dama to kill Buu despite never having personally met Goku <actually pretty much the entire Buu arc <Trunks telling Android 18 to leave an island before Cell gets her, instead of blowing her up right then and there (and then goes /pol/ on #16 a few minutes later when he wants to assist them) <the constant use of retcons in an attempt to flesh out the story/world because of Toriyama's procrastination and editor advice <Toriyama straight up admitting he forgets fine details in his own franchise <Goku being portrayed, long into adulthood, as a dumbass who only wants to fight despite Master Roshi telling him martial arts are for defending the weak and innocent, etc. >Also, words like "well" are subjective. It's a synonym for good. Read the dictionary anon, at least before Merriam Webster starts changing more definitions. >You sound like an insecure child, or some hipster liberal arts major Says the liberal arts retard trying to dig his heels in the dirt in defending crap by using "subjectivity" as a crutch rebuttal. >I specifically argued against this point. >This is literally what I was arguing. Considering you posted this >>295281 as an example of something that writers should aspire to because of autistic lore shit about a goddamn hedgehog, you seem to favor it. >You don't get to decide what art is. Neither do you, especially with your nigger-tier stubbornness at defending slop and asking for seconds. Pic related is what you advocate.
>>287277 >Additionally Netflix will be going forward with its adaptation of Devil May Cry. You gotta be fucking kidding me, DMC already had an anime. Is Netflix too lazy to come up with something new? >>295807 >image I don't understand what's the appeal of Kingdoms Hearts. It's crossover with Final Fantasy and Disney characters already makes it so damn weird to me. Not to mention that the fanbsase is really austistic as hell like Sonicfags and FinalFantasyfags.
>>295800 I don't think being shonen means it's written badly. Dragon Ball is very good at being shonen. It does exactly what it sets out to do. I'd call that good writing. Also, most of the time there are plans involved in beating the villain. The arcs where people would most often make the claim that it's all about powerups would typically be in the latter parts of the series (if you actually think pre-Raditz is dumber than post-Raditz, feel free to say so, but most people seem to strongly think the opposite), but even there it isn't true. Cell is defeated when Gohan achieves a new form, yes, but the arc is about Goku strategizing a way to properly train Gohan to achieve the higher potential that he sees in him. This is contrasted directly with how Vegeta and Trunks train, which is just bulking up their muscles, while Goku and Gohan train smarter, and then Goku spends the Cell games manipulating events to make it so Gohan can win. And he kind of fucks up a bit and gets killed because of it, but it still works out in the end. But there is planning involved. Later, the Buu Saga ends with a battle between non-Super Saiyan Goku and Buu with nobody absorbed. It's specifically a battle between two weakened forms of the protagonist and antagonist, and it involves a specific series of wishes on the Dragon Balls, and specific series of assists from Vegeta, Mr. Buu, and Mr. Satan, in order to help Goku power up a specific enormous attack that can save the day. Frieza is the closest it comes to just being about achieving a powerup, but even there, a very significant amount of the conflict is the non-Goku characters strategizing ways just to hold out until Goku gets there, and once he does, strategizing ways to allow him to charge the Spirit Bomb and stuff like that. And few would argue that Goku becoming a Super Saiyan isn't a satisfying way to conclude that arc. >Star Trek I also like Star Trek, but if I wanted to call it dumb, I could easily cherrypick by talking about episodes like the one where a flower sneezes in Spock's face and turns him into a hippie, so Kirk needs to save the day by beating him with a pipe until he stops being a hippie. I could easily point out that there are like four or five different episodes where they go to planets that are just Greco-Roman culture on another planet for some reason. That doesn't discount the "smarter" episodes, but my point is that you can find intelligence if you want, and you can find stupidity if you want. >Raditz Goku never knew that faggot anyway. Fuck it. Sure, more could have been done with him, but that is, at most, a wasted opportunity, and I wouldn't call that a major problem. It's not like they set up that he would come back and be more important. Now, that's not to say that wasted opportunities can't be big problems, I'd say they're one of the biggest problems with Super, where they keep getting so close to cool plots, then just ruining them or not bothering with them, but I wouldn't say Raditz is a really bad case of that. >>295807 >17 giving energy to the genki dama to kill Buu despite never having personally met Goku Everyone on Earth gave energy to the genki dama to kill Buu. That was the whole point. >Trunks telling Android 18 to leave an island before Cell gets her, instead of blowing her up right then and there (and then goes /pol/ on #16 a few minutes later when he wants to assist them) Trunks couldn't do shit to 18 anyway. He was too weak until he trained in the Room of Spirit and Time. >the constant use of retcons in an attempt to flesh out the story/world because of Toriyama's procrastination and editor advice This is only a problem if they're done badly. Retcons are not inherently bad. The Dragon Balls coming from Kami and being connected to Piccolo is a retcon, and few would argue that that one is bad, for example. Some people get butthurt about Goku and Piccolo being retconned into aliens, but I don't mind. It was done reasonably well and good stories came from it. The android saga is a bit notorious for it, and I can give you that it's a bit more egregious there, but I would still say it was handled okay. Reading or watching from week to week, it remains an entertaining story throughout, and one could argue that the various revelations about the androids keep you guessing and keep things suspenseful. >Toriyama straight up admitting he forgets fine details in his own franchise His admitting that outside the work does not make the work itself bad. If anything, it only makes it more impressive how few issues there actually are. The biggest point people bring up is how Lunch disappears, but it was after a time skip, and he at least managed to remember enough to give a line justifying her absence, even though it wouldn't technically be necessary. >Goku being portrayed, long into adulthood, as a dumbass who only wants to fight despite Master Roshi telling him martial arts are for defending the weak and innocent, etc. That's his character. I fail to see the problem. Nobody ever said he took all the lessons to heart very well. Do you also complain that he's not smart even though Roshi taught him academic subjects as well? I can accept that Goku is better at some of the lessons than others. That does not seem at all strange. >It's a synonym for good. Read the dictionary anon, at least before Merriam Webster starts changing more definitions. Well and good are not technically synonyms, but both are subjective, especially when it comes to the things we're talking about. "Good characterization," or "well-defined characters," are subjective terms. That doesn't mean you can't argue about them and have a more legitimate argument than someone else, but don't outright say "it's objective." >Says the liberal arts retard trying to dig his heels in the dirt in defending crap by using "subjectivity" as a crutch rebuttal. No, I just don't like people using words objectively wrong, like how you use the word objectively. And note that my saying it was "subjective" was not my actual argument. I would only leave it at that if it was a point which I felt was subjective enough, or where our disagreement wasn't wide enough, that I wouldn't say you were wrong. >Considering you posted this >>295281 as an example of something that writers should aspire to because of autistic lore shit about a goddamn hedgehog, you seem to favor it. I posted that to explain that Sonic did always have a story. Because it did. Those elements weren't just background detail lore, they were things that formed the motivations of the characters (and any players who bothered to read the manual) and, over time, became more and more important to the plot. It was actual story, and not just background "lore." However, my point was that it is very de-emphasized in the games, which is the correct way for the games to handle their stories, but that the stories could be interesting if adapted into a more story-focused medium. >Neither do you, especially with your nigger-tier stubbornness at defending slop and asking for seconds. Since I don't get to define what art is, then I won't argue when anyone says anything is art. But I will argue if it is good or bad art. Not all art is good. >Kingdom Hearts From the little I could bring myself to play of that series, it is exactly what I argue against, which is story over gameplay. The gameplay is garbage and it seems like the only reason to play it is the story, which is a motivation I'll never understand. Also, as far as I can tell, most of that stuff isn't background details either, but actual story. It's a very complex story told over many story heavy games. That doesn't mean it isn't a story. It's not just details in the world that don't come together to form a narrative. There is clearly a narrative there. It is a story, and not what you're arguing against in the rest of your posts.
>>295819 As far as I can tell, fans of Kingdom Hearts don't even like or care about the Disney stuff. If I was a kid and bought the game because I liked Disney stuff, I'd be fucking pissed off when the majority of the game turned out to be generic animu faggots. Yes, many of whom are from Final Fantasy, but it isn't as if Final Fantasy is as big a deal as Disney and should be crossing over with it on equal terms. The fact that they think Whatshisname from Final Fantasy LXIX is worth crossing over with Donald Duck is just ridiculous. Note, that's not me saying Disney isn't an evil corporation, since I expect people will try to call me some sort of Disney cocksucker. But it's simply reality, just like it would be ridiculous to cross over The Avengers and Touhou and act like "yeah, these two things are exactly as famous and should meet on equal terms. Touhou definitely should get exactly as much focus as The Avengers in this game."
>>295847 They should start playing The World Ends With You.
>>295847 >But it's simply reality, just like it would be ridiculous to cross over The Avengers and Touhou and act like "yeah, these two things are exactly as famous and should meet on equal terms. Touhou definitely should get exactly as much focus as The Avengers in this game." I get your point, but wew. Touhou characters are so OP, a lot of them could go toe to toe with characters like Thor and Thanos and have no problem beating them.
>>295885 That would cause a hilarious amount of butthurt from MCU fans. >who would win >Thanos with a completed infinity gauntlet <a little girl with a hat lol
>>295929 In the comics, Squirrel Girl has beaten Thanos, and people like that bit, because it was intended to be funny. And Squirrel Girl is just famous enough that MCU fans probably know about her. Granted, now they might only know the awful SJW version from the last few years, but that's a different conversation. Still, Squirrel Girl is basically one of the the absolute top tier characters in Marvel, as long as the battle happens off-panel. Another of the absolute top tier characters, who isn't treated as a joke, is Franklin Richards, the Fantastic Four's young son who has high level reality warping powers. It's a common fan theory that the reason Marvel characters stopped aging in real time in the late '60s is because that's shortly after Franklin Richards was born, and he decided to keep everything the way it was in his childhood. That is well within his powers.
>>295845 >Trunks couldn't do shit to 18 anyway. He was too weak until he trained in the Room of Spirit and Time. Nigger this was after they trained in the Time Chamber and were trying to prevent Cell from becoming perfect. You don't know shit about DB. >Everyone on Earth gave energy to the genki dama to kill Buu And 17 remarks he "hasn't heard that voice in a long time", despite never having met Goku in person. >This is only a problem if they're done badly. Retcons are not inherently bad. And Toriyama does them badly because characterization and world building are not his strong points. >His admitting that outside the work does not make the work itself bad. No, he literally says he forgets shit, and it shows in his work. >That's his character. I fail to see the problem. Because half the time he acts like Superman protecting the innocent and other times he's acting like a moron who just wants to punch shit. Toriyama sucked dick at showing Goku grow as a character besides retconning him into an alien and powering him up. >Well and good are not technically synonyms, but both are subjective, It's objective. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/well >No, I just don't like people using words objectively wrong, like how you use the word objectively. You objectively can't understand what words mean, what objectively good writing is, and objectively know fuck all about things you claim to have seen/read. >I posted that to explain that Sonic did always have a story. Because it did. Those elements weren't just background detail lore, Much of it is "lore", like the prophesied characters horseshit. >and any players who bothered to read the manual The manuals are all piles of of poorly translated/rewritten corporate slop written so 12 year olds would have flimsy context for why the thing they control does the things to fight fat robot man. >But I will argue if it is good or bad art. Not all art is good. And everything you think is good art is in fact, objectively, bad art. >but actual story. It's a very complex story told over many story heavy games. That doesn't mean it isn't a story. It's not just details in the world that don't come together to form a narrative. There is clearly a narrative there. It is a story, and not what you're arguing against in the rest of your posts. It's a poorly written, jerry-rigged strung together story of the type you seem to think is good.
>>300569 >objectively bad art I will never understand why niggers on this board always have to double down and make themselves sound retarded with hyperbole and stupid phrases. They can't just dispute the point at hand and let their arguments stand for themselves secure in the knowledge that they're right. It always feels like I'm an inch away from seeing emoji spam and "bruh."
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>>300654 Let me show you a quick guide to arguing on /v/.
>>300657 >We like the same games >Everyone is a faggot
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>>300657 What if we like the same games?
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>>300661 >>300663 FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGS!
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>>287277 >Shilling for Kikeflix trash >>287347 >Reminder this fag series has been shit from the first frame, ignore all apologists who cuck for the muh first season was ok meme. THIS >>287332 >Why subject yourself to this torture. Of course everything kikeflix makes is going to be cancer. Don't give this shit the attention. /thread
Kikelfix castelvania is so shit, anons would rather talk about anything else even dragon ball. This is the natural order
Why does half this thread read line one guy talking to himself via VPN
>>300697 Anything made leftards is automatically shit. You can't change that fact.
>>300569 >Nigger this was after they trained in the Time Chamber and were trying to prevent Cell from becoming perfect. You don't know shit about DB. Oh, my mistake. By this point they were already semi-aware of the Androids in this timeline not being as evil. And it's an in-the-moment decision. Not really something that's very baffling, or stands out in the moment. >And 17 remarks he "hasn't heard that voice in a long time", despite never having met Goku in person. He was programmed with knowledge of Goku, was inside Cell who met Goku. Either one of those explanations works well enough for such a minor issue, which is a different issue than the one that you were initially talking about. 17 saying he recognizes a voice, in a throwaway line, is a much different issue than acting like 17 shouldn't give energy due to having never met Goku. >And Toriyama does them badly because characterization and world building are not his strong points. Those two things don't have very much direct connection to the concept of retcons, but okay. I think the characterization in the series is pretty good. The worldbuilding is very vague and quite confusing, but it is consistent. Not sure if that means it's "good," but it's consistent. Albeit, with retcons. But again, retcons are not inherently bad. >Because half the time he acts like Superman protecting the innocent and other times he's acting like a moron who just wants to punch shit. Toriyama sucked dick at showing Goku grow as a character besides retconning him into an alien and powering him up. I would argue Goku barely grows as a character at all. I don't think that's an inherent problem. He mostly just likes to fight, but he also does have a sense of morality, even if that isn't always his main motivation. His love of fighting can keep him lighthearted even in serious situations, because he enjoys the fight. But sometimes things go too far even for him, and drive him to become serious. >It's objective. To say someone did art (including writing) well is subjective. >You objectively can't understand what words mean, what objectively good writing is, and objectively know fuck all about things you claim to have seen/read. You objectively can't speak English. >Much of it is "lore", like the prophesied characters horseshit. That does actually play into the story of Sonic 3 & Knuckles, but people don't pay attention to the story in that game. >The manuals are all piles of of poorly translated/rewritten corporate slop written so 12 year olds would have flimsy context for why the thing they control does the things to fight fat robot man. I'm not advocating for putting much confidence in localized manuals. The fact that elements from those manuals end up appearing in the games themselves shows that the developers of the actual games had the elements from those manuals in mind, and they weren't just random stuff put together after the fact. >It's a poorly written, jerry-rigged strung together story of the type you seem to think is good. Jerry-rigged doesn't mean inherently bad. But also, I don't even like it either. But you were acting like it wasn't a story, but just lore. That's wrong. It's clearly a story.
>>300831 >By this point they were already semi-aware of the Androids in this timeline not being as evil No, he wasn't. Trunks didn't fucking care about good androids because he turned 16 down until he was he talked out of it. And "heat of the moment" would be blowing shit up in an instant, not going to explain to someone that they need to exit the premises post haste. >He was programmed with knowledge of Goku, was inside Cell who met Goku. Either one of those explanations works well enough for such a minor issue You're now having to excuse a writer's shortcomings in what the writer couldn't explain himself. If you have to do that, the writing is bad. >Those two things don't have very much direct connection to the concept of retcons, Nigger him forgetting shit is what leads to retcons. >The worldbuilding is very vague and quite confusing, but it is consistent. Not sure if that means it's "good," Vague and confusing to the point of barely making sense is not good. Your autistic relativism is acting up. >I would argue Goku barely grows as a character at all. He stops growing after the Freeza arc. With the Cell arc he gets retarded and does stupid shit like actually waiting for Gero instead using the 3 years time to find himself. From then on his fighting fetish makes him retarded. >To say someone did art (including writing) well is subjective. More autistic relativism. I don't know how that's possible. >You objectively can't speak English. You objectively can't read it. >I'm not advocating for putting much confidence in localized manuals. The fact that elements from those manuals end up appearing in the games themselves shows that the developers of the actual games had the elements from those manuals in mind It was corporate drek adopted into some nigger rigged "canon" and spat back out to pander to Sonicfags. It's slop. It's nothing to appreciate outside of Sonic itself. Shonenshit is childish shit for childish brains no matter how autistically convoluted you try to present it. >But you were acting like it wasn't a story, but just lore. That's wrong. It's clearly a story. Yeah, it's a story, a shit one.
>>300666 Also checked Lucifer.
>>287277 I don’t like the pseudo-Avatar style at all. Americans can’t get away with the same level of plagiarism the Japanese can for whatever reason. The only good American take on anime is The Boondocks.
>>296305 Well there's also that the comics version of Thanos has a serious Mabuse complex and constantly sabotages himself because he subconsciously believes that he doesn't deserve to succeed. Not yet anyway.
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>>300902 >that time he was fighting Spider-Man with the Cosmic Cube >used the Cosmic Cube to cause an earthquake >then lost his footing from said earthquake he caused and dropped the fucking cube <immediately gets arrested by the NYPD and put in the back of a cop car
>>300902 >Thanos has a serious Mabuse complex and constantly sabotages himself because he subconsciously believes that he doesn't deserve to succeed. Well he did lose his girlfriend to a Rob Liefeld creation. That would damage anyone's ego.
>>300899 >American Wasn't it a Korean animation studio?
>>300899 >>301037 Both were drawn by koreans studios yes
>>287277 >fake anime into the trash
>>301060 >Koreans >A country so worthless Japan only invaded it because their cliffs made good bricks.
>>301097 >because their slits took good dicks. Fixed that for ya.
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>>295819 >I don't understand what's the appeal of Kingdoms Hearts. It's crossover with Final Fantasy and Disney characters already makes it so damn weird to me. Originally Kingdom Hearts was kind of like an interactive Disneyland. You get to travel to iconic Disney worlds and meet iconic Disney characters. But since the worlds got all interconnected, you also had FF characters running around who all lived in one other world. It was such a simple thing, really. I don't know at what point and why this franchise attracted the autists, and not any good kind of autists but the diaper deviantart kind. Especially since new games in the series don't have neither iconic Disney characters, nor any FF characters now.
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>>301097 You shouldn't hate Korea until you know them so here's a history lesson. Hideoyoshi needed to kill off samurais and get more land for them to settle because they were detrimental in his peace time. He also wanted to unite japan's warlords and his rivals against a common enemy. And although Samurai's were holding all of korea, Korean General Sun was basically destroying their supply runs and forcing Hideoyoshi's men to starve to death. So Hideoshi plotted to have him killed or removed by providing fake evidence and the retarded korean royal court basically let him. General Sun was tortured within an inch of his life stripped of his rank and left to die. So Japan was finally able to get their supplies in and basically destroy Korea's fleet in the interim. And when the royal court was about to get crushed they stopped torturing their general reinstated him and told him to prepare for a last stand with his ground troops because they had lost nearly all the ships he built, of 150 he had personally built and/or invented he only had 13 left. He had to fight against 333 ships with his 13, and despite being outnumbered 26 to 1, he was able to rout his foes using whirlpools to channel the fleet one by one. So Hideoyoshi suffered a major loss that effectively destroyed japanese moral and weakened both himself and his allies so Ieyasu could take over when he died. And General Sun's rival cheered his death and Sun basically had to wait until he was dead and in the ground for him to get any respect from the government he died for.
>>301097 >>301110 Reminder Korea had a real military division comprised entirely of pretty boys dressed nicely. They got to walk around slaying Korean and Chinese pussy. >>301124 The Imjin War was wild. When the Koreans went to the Ming for help, the Ming thought it was a joke. They basically said, "There's no way Japan would be so retarded, that they would attack one of our loyal subjects." Also, I read somewhere that the Japanese invasion could have been prevented if they let Sun react sooner or if they had left Sun guarding the coast. There's a historian on jewtube that went over it. I forget their name.
>>301124 >>301128 fuck of gooks
>>301134 You will listen to K-Pop and you will like it!
>>301128 >Also, I read somewhere that the Japanese invasion could have been prevented if they let Sun react sooner or if they had left Sun guarding the coast Its suspected he would have because he was that good in naval warfare and was by the book, his contemporaries and superiors at the time let the japanese fleet set up camp because they didn't believe it was an army intending to conquer but rather a large group of japanese traders. It's hard to believe a person like Sun would have likewise been that foolish. So thats why its stated if he had been there the war wouldn't have happened. >>301134 not a gook but a /his/ fag
>>300897 Speaking of shitty Netflix shows Lucifer is the shittiest of shitty Netflix shows because it somehow simultaneously takes the smartest guy in the room police show format and make it the least interesting shit on the planet because "the smartest guy in the room" literally reads minds, the character of the literal devil and making him a misunderstood gay playboy who somehow falls hard for some lady cop and the biblical setting by having it be the metaphorical gayest shit in existence with moody teenager levels of daddy issues.
>>301167 seem about what to expect from netflix im more surprised youre surprised


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