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Valve Announces Steam Deck Anonymous 07/15/2021 (Thu) 17:17:48 Id: 21cf91 No. 364164
For those who don't know, Valve has been working on a handheld called the Steampai for quite some time. The name is now called the Steam Deck and it's basically a new handheld to compete with the Switch. Unlike the GPD Win, it comes with Linux and will come in three options. 64GB, 256GB and 512GB. The device itself runs on an AMD APU and will start at 400 dollars. Reservations begin tomorrow and the device will ship out on December 2021.
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>>364467 >Arch Linux There's also KDE. Is this the year of the Linux Desktop all over again?
>>364467 >>364468 It's €420 in Europe which is stupidly high, that's $500. Even accounting for VAT it shouldn't be more than €400.
>>364469 >>364471 Okay, it's x86-64.
>>364476 yeah it's pretty pricey, that money could go to whatever you wanted hell that's half of what you'd spend for a new PC not counting a GPU But I haven't looked at prices for stuff in over a year.
>>364474 Wasn't SteamOS Debian based? Why would they swap the entire backend to Arch?
>>364436 This is meant to play AAA titles retard.
>>364490 >AAA games >64 GB storage space for the $400 model >no difference in power between the models either, you're paying 130-250$ purely for storage space topkek
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>>364496 >what is the SD slot
>>364164 >handheld that’s bigger than switch >Has no exclusive games >paying $500 for a handheld Is gabe newel retarded or just steam fanboys?
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>>364164 Envision, playing original xbox, ps3, switch, and pc titles for less money than a new Xbox. A bigger library than the PS5. That is also portable like a switch. Yeah this device won't do all that.
>>364512 >That is also portable like a switch. >>364164 Is it now? Switch already pushing it for a handheld.
>>364506 >forcing people to buy massive SD cards out of the box just to play games >ignoring that 1TB SD cards are $220 anyways topkek
>>364512 >A bigger library than the PS5. Is that hard to do? Wii U still has more games than PS5 and Xbox series x months after launch.
>>364164 >$400 Retroarch machine Meh.
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>>364164 I can already see myself buying one five years from now at $150 straight from valve's store solely to play fortune summoners, lost ruins and whichever PC exclusive lolige comes out in those five years from the commodity of my bed. >>364256 The 10 or so people who owned a vita back then were morbidly obese, you can fit anything in cargo pants.
>>364530 >muh retroarch machine meme >when you can clearly see that it runs literally anything
>>364530 Every musical piece in Wario 3 is amazing, how the fuck did they do it is beyond my comprehension. Didn't mostly Kirby devs work on it?
>>364520 >Is that hard to do? It's not. At least Microsofts is bringing more games to Windows. They plan to shitcan or migrate xboners. Meanwhile ,over at Sony HQ, they think R&C, FF7 Remake, and Spederman will carry the brand throughout 2021 (´∀`)ʱªʱªʱª
>>364530 Again, it's not being marketed as an emulation machine
>>364534 >implying one would ever run anything beyond RA, Citra and mobile UI Firefucks/Chromium on a screen that smol and low res, my $350 chinkphone from 2014 has 1080p resolution for the love of dog with neither HDR support nor a retractable hardware keyboard for proper high speed shitposting Wonder how the battery life of this thing will turn out, IIRC Zen APUs are quite good in that regard when it comes to Laptops but this thing is much smaller and has a decent amount of RAM.
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>>364164 PC handheld gaming is nothing new as GPD has already done it. However, Valve's Steam Deck pretty much blows out the GPD and Nintendo Switch out of the water, by having 16GB ram, twice the space the Nintendo Switch had if we go by the $399 model and being able to install your OS, add more HD via Micro SD, and use it as a desktop pc or home console unit is a big plus. Its basically makes PC gaming accessible to the masses or for those that don't have dedicated PC rigs or fancy laptops. And even if you have a RTX powered Desktop or something of that sort, the Steam Deck can be an interesting backup PC you can play whenever you're not at home. You can have the best computer rig and you'll still want one anyway it plays whatever you throw at it or you can play modded games, hentai, etc. That said, I'm probably going to hold out because 1)we don't know how these early hardware units will play out, and 2)Valve has a history of /censoring/blocking/removing select Japanese games and small third partys that violate their guidelines, including dozens of visual novels and R18 games that got deplatformed because the site's moderators felt like doing so.
>>364622 To add to this, Valve doesn't have the best history when it comes treating their developers and at times their consumer. Regardless of Valve's past, and the console's weird name, its going to be a guaranteed success and is probably going to be the Switch killer. It could probably end up pushing Nintendo to make the Switch Pro, produce more 1st party games, and focus on getting more third-parties on their console. Might even shake up things abit with the other giants(Sony, and Microsoft) if Valve manages to make their Steam Deck more accessible than the PS5 or newer Xbox it comes down to preference and what people prefer. Traditional PC gaming still has the advantage over the Steam Deck since you have way more Hard drive space to work with(most AAA games are usually above 30GB) and the experience is highly customizable. If you have a good computer you aren't missing out on a whole lot except the portable aspect.
>>364630 >>364622 Excellent shitpost anon. 9/10 The only flaw with was the part about your umbrage with Valve's history of censorship as it made you look genuinely honest about what you were saying.
>>364631 I'm saying it from a techincal point of view that Valve's new Console/PC has what it takes to challenge the Big 3 or at least Nintendo directly. The masses want to get straight to the point of gaming, many are opting for digital, and Steam has a massive player base they can pull from or persuade to buy their new hardware. The Steam Deck is a Switch killer because it has a chance to run the Yuzu emulator, allowing for emulation of Switch games but likely most people are not familiar with downloading Switch games so that'll give Nintendo some room to breath at least. Nintendo has their own unique games but the Steam Deck will test the loyalty of Nintendo fans and put pressure on Nintendo to get more third party games on Switch and fix their shitty netcode for their games. It'll be interesting to see if it'll take off and if it'll put pressure on Nintendo to improve their offerings and console. I don't like Valve and already have a gaming desktop so I'm holding out buying it.
>>364631 Besides 4cuck is getting very excited about it. That's more the reason to avoid Valve's console. Really hoping Nintendo gets their shit together, and delivers next year.
>>364647 >Besides 4cuck is getting very excited about it Why? And how do you know? :^)
>>364650 I took a quick glance on 4chan and predictably it dominates their /v/. Fortunately 8moe's /v/ is not like that and this board knows what's the real deal and what is not.
>>364639 >technical standpoint What are you talking about? The Switch's success had fuckall to do with its specs. >many are opting for digital no, they're being pidgeonholed into it by companies. >>364647 >trusting astroturfed opinions on the internet how's about instead of making asinine statements about a WIP project made by a company that hasn't released a single hardware item successfully, you wait and see how the thing actually does on the market. These predictions are off-base in the weirdest ways possible. It is not going to be marketed as an emulation machine. >backup PC What are laptops, the ubiquitous portable PCs sold everywhere. Steam would've been better off making a fucking Steam laptop with some cutesy bullshit software/OS programs than this. >Steam deck will test the loyalty of Nintendo fans literally not at all. They're completely different audiences, and the overlap that does exist would make purchasing this thing redundant for that demographic. I think this is pure delusion, or at best a complete misread of the entire gaming market. This thing won't do shit. Fucking "guaranteed success", give me a break. The people who say it will sell well because it has a graphics card in it or something have a better reason for it to succeed than your post.
>>364164 >Steamdec If it can run Windows aswell I might get it with the yearly student finance loan. Though the base model should be at the very least 128 gb, steam you aren't apple.
>>364180 That doesn't look comfortable to use nvm
Well it is what it was hyped to be more or less, good thing is it wipe the floor with any current handheld PC (yes some have more / faster CPU cores, but the IGP and VRAM are 100% the bottleneck and none can match what it has and it's also the most efficient by far, this fucking thing can probably run games decently off 7W) and costs hundreds less doing so. >>364266 >It doesn't have Wifi 6 or Zen3 either which shows how long it's been in dev. It not having Zen3 isn't necessarily due to how long it's ben in dev, putting new µarch onnto an APU isn't as easy as pushing a button and Zen2 is a more stable arch right now so it's far less involved to couple Zen2 and RDNA2 than have Zen3 + RDNA2, not to mention Zen2 + RDNA2,and in fact RDNA2 in an AMD APU at all, is a Valve specific SKU right now and AMD o,y had plans for something like that for 2022-2023 prior to that.
>>364583 I'm already going to preorder the largest model.
April fools was 3 months ago.
>>364539 Wasn't that the Fat Wario theme from Warioland 2? >>364669 Ebin shitpost mein Freund. Are you the hacker known as 4chan?
>>364283 Based
>>364221 >Honestly with the absolute fucking mess than Windows 11 appears to be, I hope this gets more people supporting linux so I can stop using jew software that wants to remove 50 features with every OS iteration. If that happens we'll just get another android where Linux is taken and bastardised. Or Chrome which is technically FOSS and killed IE but now dominates the market with Firefox as the only non-chromium yes, Chrome isn't strictly identical with chromium but it's close enough competitor. In both cases you can of course mess with android/stock chromium and get a freeer alternative but then you're back to being a tiny niche market with no formal support. Nobody with the clout to challenge Microsoft wants anything other than to replace Windows with their own centralised and controlled alternative with homage paid to FOSS just to save them the hard low-level work but then abusing the reality of 'cloud' systems or certain copyrighted features to remove your freedom anyway. Microsoft, Oracle and so on controlled software with licensing agreements and obfuscated code/de facto undocumented standards. Google and the like control what you can do through social and market pressure by providing you with a theoretical way to run your own shit but making it so much of a hassle few people will bother and then never provide any formal support in the literal sense of IT support and the other sense of cash and marketing. It's just a giant bit of marketing and a shield against anti-trust lawsuits.
mildly interested to see where this goes. the hardware is fairly good. most windows games can run on proton now. they say theyre in talks with battleeye and eac to get it proton compatible before it releases, but i have my doubts. i think my biggest interest is emulation. specifically switch emulation. it should be able to handle it fairly well, so im curious to see how it performs.
>>364763 Is it powerful enough for Switch emu? I know it's very resource intensive. I guess it'll be very optimized for gaming so it's possible.
>>364763 >they say theyre in talks with battleeye and eac to get it proton compatible before it releases, but i have my doubts Seems like this would be impossible unless they heavily subvert the Unix-style user access control since those are basically spyware-tier.
>>364770 im assuming theyre using a cut down version of what the latest consoles have, as its the same architecture. at first glance it doesnt seem all that impressive. the tflops is roughly that of a GTX 1050, but the architexture is better than what the 1050 had. both emulators do have vulkan now so amd chips should be able to thrive. emulation is generally cpu bound, so i think it should be covered. >>364774 i dont know the technical behind it, but i now some games that have anticheat like eac do work on linux after sufficient tweaking.
>>364770 The CPU side is gonna be a bit light, and the GPU side isn't exactly that insane either Wouldn't expert all switch games to be playable but some titles will run well, though most likely you're gonna be using the full TDP so that limits the console to a couple hours It should have no issue doing some older consoles PS2 excluded, and it might even manage some lighter PS3 titles, x360 is not gonna be a thing though because it's insanely GPU intensive.
>>364770 My laptop with a GTX 1070 is CPU (I7-6700HQ 2.6GHz) bound (that means the GPU can handle very well my framerate, but my CPU can't keep up) when emulating most switch games.
>>364164 >Only viable for older games, Indie Pixelshit, Emulation, and cheap asset flip garbage I wonder if that one anon who bought a secondhand Steam Machine is still around.
If this can run Switch games smoothly then it might be worth looking at. Should be easier to homebrew too. I don't play vidya in public though. That brick can't even fit in a pocket, what the hell.
>Cuckchan /v/ mods and resetera shilling hard for steam deck >everyone ignoring Steambox a failure >Valve was suppose to make VR mainstream and profitable >Valve IPs all dead but card games >Paying $380 to $500 for a heavy switch that can’t fit in pockets valve becoming the Apple of PC gaming. Outside of retro gamers who does steam Deck appeal to?
>>364164 >$649 for the legitimately best version What is this? This smells like Philip CDi and 3DO pricing.
Surprisingly, I'm seeing a lot of Japanese gamers talking about this. I don't know what they're saying, but they make up a notable percentage of all Steam Deck discussion.
God damn I don't want a Switch rip off I just want a anti gravity desktop I can carry with me in public to play my hentai visual novel on.
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Here are some screenshots of what I'm talking about. Can any weebs translate? Sorry if only one image shows up, my browser sometimes doesn't like multi-image posting.
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>>364858 Damn, I'm going to have to post these one by one cuckchan style. Sorry about that.
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>>364862 There are way more but I don't want to flood the thread or put too much work on anons who might want to translate. Many of the most liked and retweeted ones looked like they came from Japanese gaming sites so I skipped over them.
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>>364865 Just one more because this one has me interested because it looks like he's talking about the fact it's Linux, something which as far as I'm aware has very little presence in Japan
>>364542 >Meanwhile ,over at Sony HQ >Nintendo: introducing Nintendo Switch <Sony: portability isn't a feature that consumers want >Valve: introducing the Steam Deck <Sony: p-portability isn't a feature that consumers want >Microsoft: here are ways you can install Windows 10 on Steam Deck and enjoy XBox games on the go <Sony: PORTABILITY ISN'T WHAT YOU GUYS WANT! GO BUY SOME MORE PLAYSTATION 5 YOU ENTITLED DIPSHITS!
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>>364892 Someone needs to remind Sony that even though the PSP didn't beat the NDS, it sold a respectable 80~some million units and is widely regarded as the best portable console ever made (once you install CFW). Also that the entire blame for the Vita's failure lies at their shit marketing and proprietary memory cards - and which is still so far the best portable console ever made (once you install CFW). If they just fixed their fucking software and put a little faith in their own products, Sony could still be making bank on the portable market. It was never in the cards for them to "beat" Nintendo in that market. But fuck man, axing a viable revenue stream just because it can't be #1 is retardedly arrogant.
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I'v got to be honest I'm loving the idea of the Steam Deck. The fact it really is just a Small Portable PC, that easily docks into a screen, it brings so many possibilities. I feel this is the kind of thing that has the potential to bring the Soul of LAN Parties back, Everyone can set up there to play a proper PC game with each other, but also someone at anytime can just whip out an old 4 player split screen game through emulation and just fuck around playing that too. You can bounce from Quake, to EDF, to F-Zero, to Mortal Kombat, to Kriby Air Ride, to Battlefront. Of course you'd need to know people IRL. but the thought is nice.
>>364858 Can you not just use (((google))) translate? Provide the (archived) links if you're too lazy to just copy and paste it. >>364893 >and proprietary memory cards - and which is still so far the best portable Was that not an (over)reaction to piracy being perceived as what killed third party support for the PSP? Obviously it didn't work out either but I can sort of see the logic behind it. I miss the PSP and Vita. >If they just fixed their fucking software and put a little faith in their own products, Sony could still be making bank on the portable market. It was never in the cards for them to "beat" Nintendo in that market. But fuck man, axing a viable revenue stream just because it can't be #1 is retardedly arrogant. Nip companies have a habit of failing due not exactly to arrogance but due to the nipponese cultural belief that if you just do the 'correct' steps you will succeed combined with their habit of promoting for seniority not competence leading to extremely conservative approaches to big projects. Hell the very reason Sony were ever in the hardware market at all was Nintendo falling prey to the same issue with cartridges and the PSX. In this case after the Vita failed Sony just followed the 'correct' approach after hardware in a niche seemed to fail and all mainstream industry analysis said handheld was dead, mobile would take over. What's a more interesting question is how Nintendo broke out of this cycle and eventually bounced back and how much the Switch was an intentional return to its roots vs a semi-accidental result of trying to recapture the Wii's hardware-gimmick success combined with where they'd succeeded in the past again following a 'correct' method of replicating what had worked even after the WiiU didn't really succeed.
>>364897 >I feel this is the kind of thing that has the potential to bring the Soul of LAN Parties back The last time I went to a lan party, and this would be at least 8 years back, people went to all the effort of bringing full tower desktops and then half the room proceeded to play LoL by themselves due to addiction to their little digital matchmaking rank. The other half was partly oldfags trying to recapture proper LAN parties and then some youngfags who had to be beaten into trying things by the aforementioned oldfags but loved it once it got going actually come to think of it that sounds exactly like the dynamic of the few gamenights I showed up to. I can't imagine they're any better nowadays with an increased number of walled-garden matchmaking games and a greater reliance on phones to start at instead of socialising. Maybe if you enforced a hard rule against any form of internet connection you could get everyone to actually play like it was 1997 or even 2006 again.
>>364901 >>364897 EDF co-op even possible in this thing?
>>365115 It's just a small PC. You can play online co-op with it, or you can put it into the dock for a bigger Screen, hook up controllers and play Split-screen.
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>>364901 Someone needs to develop a Grindr/Tinder app, except for arranging LAN parties. Call it Quaker.
>>365152 You almost had it, anon. It needs to be called Quakr to fit with the rest of them.
>>365152 Except no one should want to use a proprietary data harvesting app like all those dating apps are. The problem with social apps is that they're all privacy nightmares.
>>365152 why quake for lan play? Best part of lan was cs 1.6 because you can immediately talk with everyone
>>365190 Im not even sure why do they collect data like that, and who they sell it to, and who buys it. All for to say 'yeah this guy here, he likes this product'. Are marketing guys so inept to not calculate how much customers likes a product? Are cia buying from them?
>>365218 Because normalniggers are ridiculously susceptible to targeted advertising. Having infinitely growing data profiles for every person on the planet and being able to predict exactly what product someone might need before they even know they need it is very profitable. These algorithms can accurately predict whether or not you're pregnant before you even know it especially if you're using fitness related apps/devices, then they can advertise pregnancy related shit to you instantly. Or (((Amazon))) can advertise abortion services to you when they open up their (((Amazon Basics Healthcare))) centres.
>>365115 If it runs on the hardware I don't see any reason why not. >>365152 >>365153 If you make it an app you'll only attract normalfags who never played Quake but want to larp. You need to distribute it on something underage fags will not understand: a multi-CD installation complete with custom installer using ingame music and screenshots to build anticipation, annoyingly ambiguous CD keys to type in is it a V or a U? O or 0? Nobody fucking knows. and then they have to download 6 incremental patches specific to the language their release was in from questionable german rehosting sites. Alternatively put it on a dodgy CD with the name written on in black permanent marker and also require them to download the correct no-CD crack from gamecopyworld.
>>365224 >You need to distribute it on something underage fags will not understand: a multi-CD installation complete with custom installer using ingame music and screenshots to build anticipation, annoyingly ambiguous CD keys to type in is it a V or a U? O or 0? Nobody fucking knows. and then they have to download 6 incremental patches specific to the language their release was in from questionable german rehosting sites Or you just only release Linux binaries.
>>365227 Anything that keeps low-effort normalfags out and recaptures some of the nostalgia from the time period is fine, though really how decent was Linux at the time for mainstream vidya wasn't using it then, am now? I know Quake and Doom more or less ran native because of Carmack and Dave Taylor's autism and that's largely why so many Quake forks are alive to this day but outside of id products I'd have thought that at that relatively early stage (91-2005 or so, say) things would be pretty shit.
>>365223 what happened to mad men styled executives who made people like their product, had teams to design a product first good and didn't worry about targeted advertising, or sell at a different market altogether. We need more small businesses. I don't anyone better a advertiser than my shopkeeper at my store. >Amazon Basics Healthcare <gives out painkillers and hormones out of vending machines
>>365244 Selling good products isn't as profitable as selling bad products marketed well.
>>365244 >what happened to mad men styled executives who made people like their product, had teams to design a product first good and didn't worry about targeted advertising, or sell at a different market altogether. We need more small businesses. I don't anyone better a advertiser than my shopkeeper at my store. Your mistake is thinking that the goal is effective advertising. The goal is for the middle men like google to make highly targeted advertising appear effective so they can keep getting their cut where outside of niche uses like political advertising which the tech companies in question use to subtly push people to support them and keep using their newer products the level of granularity big tech companies offer is honestly unnecessary for most companies. Hell look at even normalfags complaining about the fact when they buy a washing machine they'll see adverts for more washing machines for weeks as if that's effective. Sticking adverts for GPUs on vidya websites would be plenty effective as will sticking adverts for baby clothes on blogs by retarded new mothers both without needing full tracking down to who clicked on what but then why would anyone pay google instead of just cutting them out and making deals with the blogs directly? On the one hand google, facebook and so on have made themselves appear indispensable to companies looking to advertise because nobody else can match their level of privacy invasion even though as mentioned it's of limited use in practice. On the other hand they have normalfags believing that such advertising is needed to make things like youtube 'free' even though the companies that pay for the adverts will just increase prices accordingly to keep profits up. It's basically a micro tax through all products purchased on everyone that then funnels a good sized chunk of that micro tax through one of ~5 major tech companies.
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I must be part of the minority on /v/ who is hyped for this device. The way I see it, the Steam Deck is a cheaper and better designed alternative to GAMER™ laptops rather than consoles or desktop PCs as everyone mentions. Both the Deck and GAMER™ laptops have the gimmick of letting you play everywhere, but unlike laptops this thing is designed from ground solely with GAMING™ in mind, while laptops still are multipurpose devices regardless of the amount of GPU, sinks and LED lights they have. The price is another key factor. The base model of the Steam Deck costs around half of what a laptop with similar specs cost, and offers better mobility and a more optimized performance thanks to its custom chips and OS (vs generic ones on laptops). This difference is enough to convince people interested in a portable GAMING™ device to choose the Deck instead of a laptop or a Switch. >>364892 >Microsoft: here are ways you can install Windows 10 on Steam Deck and enjoy XBox games on the go Close, but Microsoft's actual approach on the "portable" segment is "cloud computing" rather than letting people install Windows everywhere. A couple of days ago they announced Windows 365, which basically is the OS equivalent of their Office 365 and similar services. There's also that Xbox Game Pass thing that lets you play Xbox games on almost any device with internet, laptops, phones and tablets included. >>364858 >>364860 >>364861 >>364862 >>364865 >>364870 Post Links to these tweets and I'll see what I can do.
>>365262 >I must be part of the minority on /v/ who is hyped for this device There are a decent number of anons ITT that have expressed seeing this as neat.
>>365262 The biggest pricing issue with laptop comes with the fact they use RTX cards, and not APUs. Also no RDNA2 apus, amd is doing nothing rake money from scalpers and miners buying their stocks in bulk. microsoft will never support this. Maybe just for gamepass. Ubisoft and other stores might.
>>365323 Fuck, my post got eaten. I wanted to say that I'm curious, but for someone who only plays rimworld and a few more autistic games I want to know if the device can take greatly modded games.
>>365274 >The biggest pricing issue with laptop comes with the fact they use RTX cards The fuck are you talking about? Laptops don't use cards. Usually their graphic chips sit right on the mainboard whether it's an APU or not.
>>365195 So you can talk shit properly. That was the precedent Romero set when he spent all his time slacking off playing Doom deathmatch. >>365262 It's cheaper than a gaming laptop, but you're retarded if either of those devices appeals to you. A gaming laptop combines the worst of a console and a PC, and then sprinkles an extra bit of shit on top. You can't upgrade a laptop beyond maybe an extra hard drive, heat management is shit compared to a proper case, the screen is integrated to the device so if it fails you can't replace it, you are bound to a specialized smaller GPU that sucks worse than its desktop equivalent, and so on. If you're absolutely adamant about playing games when you're not at home and you're too lazy/stupid to put together a small form factor PC, this device may appeal to you I suppose. But there's also too many unknowns. Will the GPU be as good as they claim? Why is the CPU 2 generations out of date and can it be upgraded? Etc. You're basically paying for an outdated gaming laptop in a novelty form factor that is more prone to hardware failure.
>>364851 >look up the Steam Deck on shitter >most of the posts are in Japanese What's gotten them so interested?
>>365342 Vita and Switch, I guess. Since it's Linux they can run illegal uncensored porn games on them too...
>people getting completely locked out of making reservations because the shitty purchasing system keeps breaking and telling them to try again too many times Got my reservation after a few tries but lots of people are getting their accounts locked out of purchases. Don't spam try to reserve it too much if you're trying to get one.
Steam servers are so shit, guess I won't be able to make a reservation. Maybe it's for the better since I'm kinda broke and would be blowing all my money on it, can I build a better gaming PC for 400 bucks?
>>365350 >can I build a better gaming PC for 400 bucks? You can't even get a GPU for $400 right now, so no.
>>365350 Right now you can't do shit because GPU prices are 3x as high as they should be. Wait a few months. That's what I'm doing because my GPU fried itself.
>>365350 Nah, not really
>>365352 >Wait a few months. Haven't GPU prices been up for a few years now?
>>365354 Not now. We gotta wait it out. Steam Deck will also get cheaper, so there's no reason to rush. >>365355 Last months were especially extreme. Crypto is going down right now. It will likely fall below RRP in a few months.
>>365353 >>365352 >>365351 >>365354 I see, real smart of Valve to release this then. I'll wait a few months , my arguably ancient 650ti will have to do for now.
>>365342 Handheld of any sorts is of interest in Japan >>365347 Why are you pre-ordering?
>>365355 The price to performance ratios have been getting progressively worse. The 1080ti is still the best bang for your buck GPU if you were to get one used before COVID. Basically GPU's peaked at Maxwell and modern GPU's are relying on shitty gimmicks like ray tracing. In a normal market there would be almost zero reason to ever buy anything besides a 1080/1080ti on the used market for ridiculously cheap while retarded normalniggers buy new models for meme gimmicks. >>365358 There is no way for you or anyone to know the Steam Deck will get cheaper. It's a very weird assumption to make in the current market. >>365359 >I see, real smart of Valve to release this then. It is. Right now it's impossible for anyone to get their hands on any gaming hardware so every single unit of this thing will fly off the metaphorical shelves. >>365361 A $5 reservation isn't a pre-order. I'm still not certain I'll actually end up getting one or not.
>>365342 PC gaming isn't a big thing in Japan, this is a fully functional mid-tier PC that requires no extra equipment for $399. You can't even buy a graphics card for $399. On top of that, it's in a format Japanese gamers actually like.
>>365252 so executives are basically getting bummed by facebook analytics saying they have to use privacy data for selling products when that data is 90% common sense
>>365359 >my arguably ancient 650ti will have to do for now. It will definitly do. I'm suffering on my shittop here. Imagine how I feel. But I'm not gonna blow 350 Eurobucks to buy a 2 year old used card that was 240 RRP at release two years ago that's on the exact same level as the 6 year old card. (well it draws a little less power but that's it) >>365363 >There is no way for you or anyone to know the Steam Deck will get cheaper. Electronics always get cheaper. The card that fried is cheaper today than it was back then even through we have that bullshit market. Now go back to work, Valve employee.
>>365325 Probably as much as its specs and the compatibility layer (for games and mods that only support Windows) permit it. >>365332 >If you're absolutely adamant about playing games when you're not at home and you're too lazy/stupid to put together a small form factor PC That's the main demographic of GAMER™ laptops, and now they have a device better suited for their needs. Laptopfags want a device that is as easy to setup as consoles while being more powerful (and easier to hack/mod/pirate) than them, and this Deck thing offers it for a cheaper price. I agree that >we need to wait until the device is out and enough people have tried and reviewed it. My biggest concerns right now are the battery, heat and the SD reader being a potential bottle neck. >>365342 They like portable devices because they tend to be too busy to play on consoles/desktop PC. This is why the Switch sells way more than its competitors, the Vita is still alive there, and gacha shit is popular.
>>365366 >Electronics always get cheaper. That depends entirely on the time frame you're working with, and since you haven't actually qualified a time frame it's a meaningless statement to make. Cards from 5 years ago are selling for above their MSRP used. Those cards got cheaper, and then they got ridiculously expensive because of the market conditions. A Steam Deck will be cheaper in 5 years, probably. But a Steam Deck will not be cheaper a year from now.
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One of the things that has me the most curious, the cheapest version is 64GB. That's double the memory of what the switch has, but that still pretty much nothing for a PC. But I wonder if that's actually a good thing. maybe it will put pressure on developers/publishers to actually Compress their fucking games properly. You legitimately can't play what ever new Call of Duty game there is on the cheapest version of the Steam Deck because the games are too fucking big.
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>>365352 >>365363 >>365364 At first I didn't get who the market for this thing was, but I think I do now. This is a gateway into PC gaming for people with toasters or laptops. The Deck could actually be a huge success if Valve plays plays their cards right >>365366 >Electronics always get cheaper. The card that fried is cheaper today than it was back then even through we have that bullshit market. Shitcoin mining has caused card prices to be stupidly high for years and it doesn't look like there's any end in sight anytime soon. If you bought a new card at any point in the past 7 years you could probably sell it for double or triple what you paid for it.
>>365369 No they aren't. Cards that were 500 Euros 6 years ago are 200 Euros used now. Normally they'd be a hundred Euros. What we have currently is temporary condition that will fade soon. Eventually the mining of whatever shitcoin they were used for will get too hard to be worth it and then the market will be flooded with infinite used cards and hit the floor.
>>364164 It will be nice to steal some and sell them to retards.
>>365375 Sorry BLM but they won't be in stores, this is something you have to buy from Valve.
>>365371 >maybe it will put pressure on developers/publishers to actually Compress their fucking games properly The only way this could be real is if Valve decides to treat the Deck as a console and makes mandatory for every studio using their store to support it (similarly to how the other console companies and Apple have a series of hard requirements for letting other companies do things with their products and services), which definitively would alienate a lot of them (specially big companies, bunch of lazy niggers).
>>365371 The problem with games is that they all ship with the maximize texture size regardless of whether or not someones machine can actually use those textures. That means someone running the game on 1600x900 resolution is still downloading the same 8K textures the guy with the super computer is using, but the guy with the low resolution toaster laptop will simply never see those textures yet they'll still be downloaded onto his machine. What should be the standard is games letting you choose different texture resolutions as a prompt when you go to download them, sort of like how Skyrim had a standard version and then a high resolution texture version you could download. >>365374 >No they aren't. Cards that were 500 Euros 6 years ago are 200 Euros used now. The fact that 6 year old cards are selling for $200 used only proves my point. In regular market conditions that would be a fraction of that price. A 6 year old GPU should not be selling used for $200+. Under no circumstance should literally fucking anyone be going out and building a PC with a 980 in it for $200 in 2021. That is not an acceptable price point.
>>365387 inb4 crypto mining collapses on december and flood market, $100 cards everywhere, this device fails to capture market
>>365390 Would be nice, but I doubt it.
>>365387 >The fact that 6 year old cards are selling for $200 used only proves my point. I was talking Euros and it contradicts your point: >Cards from 5 years ago are selling for above their MSRP used. is not below.
>>365371 Valve will just stop selling it a year or two from now and the 512GB model will drop its price in half. Remember how MS had several 360 models and Arcade was eventually killed off? Actually quote me on this
>>365392 There are 10 series cards that just a month or two ago were selling above MSRP. The 900 series was terrible so it's not surprising that the prices for them are lower.
>>365367 Why would a game with steamworks have mods not compatible depending od the OS?
Can we fuck the steam deck?
>>365387 >What should be the standard is games letting you choose different texture resolutions as a prompt when you go to download them iOS apps, do something similar that I'd like to see in other places. The apps contain different versions of the same graphics and textures (normal for iPhone, 2x for iPad, 3x/4x/5x/?x for whatever has an even bigger screen), and the device automatically deletes those resolutions that won't be used (I think nowadays the AppStore directly gives you only the files adequate for your specific device) in order to save space and resources. Some android apps have specific versions for different architectures (armv7 aka 32bits, armv8 aka 64bits, x86, etc) and resolutions (normal, HiDPI, HiDPI 2x) and the Play Store downloads the most adequate for your device. On PC games these methods could translate to having the base game with the smallest textures, and additional packs for textures in increasingly higher definitions (32px, 64px, 128px, ..., 4k, 8k, etc) offered as optional content during the installation of the game. >>365403 I was thinking on mods outside of the workshop. Those tend to have their own installers/managers and API, and usually are only compatible with Windows.
>>365415 Ah yeah, that's true. Well, it's too expensive anyway so probably won't get it if I don't win the lottery or something. Will it include some painter? to at least work in RPG maker games.
>>365419 Painter?
>>365421 I mean some sort of MsPaint or equivalent to paint pixels.
>>365419 It's a goddamned Linux PC, just install Kolourpaint and use the touchscreen. It would be kind of a shitty interface but what else would you expect? I don't get why so many anons in this thread don't understand that this isn't a console.
>>365423 Well, there's Aseprite on Steam (https://store.steampowered.com/app/431730/Aseprite/) which is compatible with Linux (and therefore with SteamOS). Linux has its own drawing apps (Krita is the most popular, but there are others, including a couple that behave very similar to MS Paint) that you'll probably be able to download and install without problem, and even the original MS Paint can be used on Linux via WINE. Speaking of installing shit, has Valve mentioned anything about how easy will be to install software outside of Steam without having to "unlock" or replace the OS?
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>>365428 Why would you fucking pay for aseprite wen you can compile it yourself?
>>365371 >64GB Anon... that's the total size of the storage onboard. You're not actually going to get that much storage space. I assume Valve is going to keep the SteamOS lightweight, but you can likely still shave off about 10GB just in general storage fuckery and the OS. If you put Windows on it... I hope you're good at debloating, because that will eat another 30~40GB of your storage out of the box.
>>365432 Because paying is the easiest way, and most potential users want to know about the easiest way first. Is undoubtedly that more tech savvy people will thinker with it in every way imaginable, but since that anon didn't seem to be that kind of people I offered him the least complex path.
>>365434 I wouldn't buy the 64GB version obviously. I'm just making a point that the are going to be people that will buy that version, and they won't be able to play Bloated File size games.
>>365438 Well hopefully it's as you said and this pressures developers to release compressed SteamOS versions of their games with smaller texture sizes. 64GB would be more than enough space if the games shipped with resolution appropriate textures.
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>finally log in >see this Well fuck me. right? I guess Valve doesn't want my money.
>>365443 Aren't they assembling it in Taiwan or some other East Asian country? I am surprised they aren't shipping it to China, Korea and Japan.
>>365454 It has a Japanese landing page so it would be strange not to sell it there. They're talking about "expanded regional availability" so those countries listed are probably just the first to get it.
>>365457 maybe they're partnering up with a local company as was suggested earlier in the thread
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>>365396 >There are 10 series cards that just a month or two ago were selling above MSRP. Propably no longer. As I'm saying the prices are falling. This is a temporary situation.
>>365463 Probably
>>365463 >18 months >temporary Anything is temporary under those standards. Like I said, without you actually qualifying what you mean by temporary you're not saying anything of substance.
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>>365498 You clearly never owned a GameGear
>>365507 It's xbawks hueg and that's hilarious, Gaben probably designed it himself around his fat greasy ham hands.
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>>365448 >>365461 Made my best effort to remove the cancer.
>>365531 God if the Steam Deck can emulate switch games it would be earth shattering levels of hilarity.
>>365531 >blessed by thy steam sales <these fucking lord gaben, mustard, and shitty steam sale memes are still ongoing christ, what the actual fuck. I guess cuckchan and reddit never changed, though I felt like its been a long fucking time since i've seen a meme like this.
>>365355 Should be dropping soon since bitcoin has crashed. >>365365 Yes. The amount of waste in large companies would terrify you. They only dominate the market through momentum, extreme economies of scale and outsourcing to near-slave labour (that also ignores all environmental laws) in Asia.
>>365534 Maybe not Switch games (the current emulators still need a fuckton of improvement and have fairly high requirements), but I'm sure that it could run Wii U games and lower (obliterating the Switch and its shit Virtual Console service).
This thing will have more nintendo games than any nintendo console and more playstation games than any playstation console.
>>365538 Mining correlates with the price of ethereum, not the price of bitcoin. And ethereum while still somewhat tied to the price of bitcoin has veered away from being directly influenced by it as heavily. >>365541 That's too bad. But as you said you can run the entire lineup of previous Nintendo games and for free, meanwhile I'm sure Nintendo charges retarded prices just to play their shitty ancient games on new hardware.
>>365547 >Mining correlates with the price of ethereum, not the price of bitcoin. And ethereum while still somewhat tied to the price of bitcoin has veered away from being directly influenced by it as heavily. To add onto this once ethereum goes proof of stake the entire GPU market will fucking implode from the influx of used GPU's. But ethereum has been promising proof of stake for years and it's always "just around the corner".
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>>365531 actually I'll just "fix" this a little more
>>365557 >4MB stop
>>365566 >scared and I suppose you think homophobia is literally being "afraid" of the gays instead of being disgusted by them back to cuckchan with your ass
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Didn't mean to spoiler >>365498 >thinks the Steam Deck is ugly >posts ayyware as a counter This is probably bait and I'm replying just because it's that good, A+ >>365531 I was actually in the middle of doing that myself, so thanks
>>365566 >scared I have a healthy aidia about cancer, no phobia you loser.
>Valve declared that with the release of the Steam Deck they plan to have every EAC and BattleEye game compatible over proton by the end of this year Man I might fucking hate this company for a bunch of other reasons, but my god this sounds glorious.
>>365588 In about 3 years Valve turned Linux gaming from a pain in the ass to only slightly more inconvenient than running them natively on Windows, they deserve credit for that.
>>365588 YOLD NOW All that's left is for the steam client itself to be made free software or at least have alternative CLI-based clients possible.
>>365586 >Damn maybe you're right, maybe I am the one with cancer to not want to spoiler and censor drawings which don't even break the rules in this case for hurting my feelings for some reason. >Sucks for me I guess. >Editing memes is now censorship. It really does suck for you to have this frame of mind.
>>365586 >cuckchan memes >not breaking the rules You have to go back.
>>365566 I hate seeing ugly people in my porn. I refuse to save images with "ugly bastards" that can't be edited out with relative ease. >>365577 >>365580 I like the polygonal aesthetic of Ayyware, but designing controls with sharp edges (even if they're rounded a bit) is a retarded decision. The best controllers are those smooth and round to have a more comfortable grip.
>>365588 Having followed the anti cheat saga on Proton for a while, I'm skeptical they'll be able to pull it off, but I guess we'll see. They were working on it last autumn until the main dev working on it (GloriousEggroll) got pulled off to support Media Foundations instead.
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>>365610 >I hate seeing ugly people in my porn. I refuse to save images with "ugly bastards" that can't be edited out with relative ease. I can't even begin to grasp as to why someone who is perfectly capable of drawing attractive characters would draw some baboon looking retard fucking it. It makes me so mad sometimes that I stop fapping if I find out that an artist I enjoy draws ugly bastards.
>>365617 Well when it does get around to working it'll be interesting to see if it depends on some proprietary kernel module and how controversial that'll be. Anti-cheat is all malware and getting malware to run on Linux is certainly questionable, especially kernel level malware. Good for normalfags since they were already running the kernel malware on their Windows machines anyways and any Linux adoption is good, but I'd still rather not normalize accepting the way that anti-cheat is currently implemented in games. Especially since there are a lot of games that have zero fucking right implementing anti-cheat in the first place or even being always online, like PSO2 or Vermintide. I'd much rather see a push to eradicate these practices in their entirety. But I know that'll never happen.
>>365620 PSO2 at least has the excuse of having a player economy, so I can see why they'd want to make sure Chinese bots can't manipulate the prices of giant fake tit accessories. Vermintide's anticheat on the other hand is utterly bewildering to me. Worst case scenario is some guy joins your match who owns everything and makes the level boring, but that's already enough of a problem with skilled players joining unskilled players.
>>365557 I remember when I used to post swastikas to annoy people. Now you remove wojaks so that they may not infringe on your sensibilities.
>>365623 By the same token we were all namby pambies for not tolerating furries back in the day. Now we do
>>365621 >PSO2 at least has the excuse of having a player economy, so I can see why they'd want to make sure Chinese bots can't manipulate the prices of giant fake tit accessories. It's not really an excuse to me because I couldn't care less for the shitty MMO aspects of that game. It's fun to hit things and run around, every single other aspect of that game is a clusterfuck and stupid. If I could play that game fully offline I would and just ignore these convoluted questing system while hacking away at monsters. I don't care if games have live service portions, but when there's no offline option you can go fuck yourself and your bullshit software doomed to eventually became vaporware one day. >Vermintide's anticheat on the other hand is utterly bewildering to me. Worst case scenario is some guy joins your match who owns everything and makes the level boring, but that's already enough of a problem with skilled players joining unskilled players. Yup, even more inexcusable.
>>365623 Wojak is gay.
>>365625 >we x2
>thread derailing from obvious bait GAY Do you think the Deck will be a success or no? It's a good entry point into PC gaming for those who don't have good hardware, but it's also huge and requires people to use an OS they're not familiar with.
>>365630 >Do you think the Deck will be a success or no? Yes, it makes laptops obsolete
>>365630 >but it's also huge and requires people to use an OS they're not familiar with. I think these are the biggest problems it has.
>>365630 There's no way to really predict the "success" of a product like this. Firstly because it depends on the state of the GPU and console market, which right now is in a very awkward position. And secondly because Valve is ran by spastic weirdos that sometimes do things really well and support them a lot and sometimes get bored of things and give up on them. But considering how much they've stuck with proton and how good it is now, and that this system is tightly integrated with proton, the good old "cautiously optimistic" buzzword comes to mind. >>365631 I would say it would make laptops obsolete if it was a proper tablet and the controller part of it could be disconnected from the device like the Switch. With the fixed controller portion I don't think it could ever be considered a legitimate laptop "killer" for 99% of people. >>365632 It's probably not that big of a problem. It's marketed as a Steam specific device so there isn't any expectation for non-steam stores to function easily. And most normlafag applicaitons run perfectly fine on Linux (gayscord, spotify, etc). An operating system that is curated for specific hardware is the one thing that Linux tends to struggle with, and the SteamOS might solve that.
>>365630 >Do you think the Deck will be a success or no? Nope, and I'm one of the people hyped for it. No matter what Valve does, the Deck will be too complex for the braindead normalfags who buy consoles, and the even more retarded PC elitists who buy/build expensive towers only to play indie and AAA shit won't be interested in "such weak device that looks like a console". I can see it getting some success between the "thinkers" who like similar devices (UMPC) because it let's you install different OS and maybe with the kind of people who buy laptops to play games because it's a cheaper alternative better suited for games, but both groups aren't big enough to make enough money for Valve to keep up with this thing for longer than a generation. I want to be proven wrong, tho. The way I see things, this is an experiment to make Linux better suited for games. Controlled that Valve's devs can use to improve WINE/Proton (see their promise for making DRM work) and to attract more third party devs to Linux, possibly because Valve sees Microsoft's Xbox-related cloud gaming™ services as a threat to their own business (why buy PC and games when you can subscribe to X service and play in your shit laptop/tablet?).
>>365634 I'm 59c4b3 btw. Fuck IPv6 and Cuckflare.
>>365630 It could go either way depending on how Valve markets it, but this could be a huge success. There's never been such an accessible and affordable all-in-one gaming PC before. Some people get scared of PC gaming and PCs because they see them as complicated and troublesome, the Steam Deck looks like the perfect system for them. It's basically a PC for people who like consoles.
>>365630 I think it has the potential to do the two things Steam Machines should have done from the start but never did because Valve are fucking retards. 1. Push Linux as a target platform since if you want to get your shit running on stock SteamDeck it will have to be Linux. 2. Provide a target hardware configuration for all devs so they can say "if we get it to run on this we're good, and we can do the others as secondary targets".
>>365634 There is also the chance that the Steam Deck itself isn't very successful but that the SteamOS form factor becomes a standard for third party companies to adopt and sell.
>>365626 Not that I think you're "enjoying the game wrong" but most people play PSO2 so they can grind for cosmetics and make a cute waifu/bara robot. It's a comfy grind, but thats the real "endgame," affording the hairstyles and shit. >>365629 My apologies, I didn't mean to make assumptions about how much furfaggotry you tolerate. >>365640 There's not much reason to assume this would happen if the Deck flops. SteamOS has been out much longer than the Deck and nobody gives a shit about it.
>>365550 >>365547 Didn't the chinks crack down on all crypto though?
>>365630 I don't think the fact it's running linux will be the biggest barrier for the average normalfag consumer who probably won't ever leave Valve's tailored experience that is "SteamOS" though this also sorta assumes that most games they're going to want to play will be compatible OOTB
>>365634 >>365637 >The way I see things, this is an experiment to make Linux better suited for games >I think it has the potential to do the two things Steam Machines should have done from the start I think the Steam Machines were Valve's Linux experiment, it feels like they were never intended to have any real market success beyond collecting user data (in the traditional sense not the Faceberg botnet sense) and staving off Microsoft's attempt at making Windows a walled garden.
>>365645 It will be a total mixed bag. There will be retards who only play a certain game or two that work out of the box who shill endlessly with "works on my machine :^)" posts and retards who bought the thing without doing enough research then are surprised when their game of choice doesn't run. If one game that they want to play right now doesn't work, that's it. The normalfag will be outraged because "you sold me a PC but my PC game doesn't work." Virtually no one is accustomed to the Pandora's box that is gaming on Linux when there are WINE issues. If Valve is intelligent they'll make it more transparent by releasing a compatibility list that integrates directly with Steam. They can do it fairly easily, games are already delineated by native OS so that only leaves the games which are compatible with Proton, which they can likely scrape ProtonDB for.
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>>365648 You know what's weird? That model is no different to the $399 one. It just comes with more stuff and a bigger SSD. I don't see anything beyond the base model selling well
>>365262 First off, <hype But that aside, you are on the money. You would think people here would be technically astute enough to a) gauge the benchmarks and realize this blows integrated graphics out of the water while also being cheaper and smaller than fucking netbooks, b) be able to look up games running on GTX 1050 Tis/HD Radeon 7950s/R9 280s to get an idea of the technical performance of games, and c) have enough power-user experience with Linux to see the potential (i.e. using the device to do modding work by installing relevant utilities from repositiories as well as gaming, using mpv+YT-dl to get comfy watching videos without the modern homosexuality of the platforms, installing torrent clients and seedboxing with it, emulating MGS4 on RPSC3, etc.). Then again this bread is infested with 4cuckers who are stupid as all shit so they wouldn't realize what gold the device is. If Ayytendo can convince 4cuckers to preorder a shitty white Switch for $350 then it's not hard to see why $399 for something that's easily at least three times as powerful with the flexibility of Linux would be a killer app. Personally I understand why Valve chose to skimp on the storage, I would have done the same to cut costs in their situation.
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>>365651 This but also this
>>365642 >Not that I think you're "enjoying the game wrong" but most people play PSO2 so they can grind for cosmetics and make a cute waifu/bara robot. It's a comfy grind, but thats the real "endgame," affording the hairstyles and shit. None of that depends on live services so it's the same shit. Back when I played it I would just do a single dungeon every other day because it was a satisfying game to play. >There's not much reason to assume this would happen if the Deck flops. SteamOS has been out much longer than the Deck and nobody gives a shit about it. Probably, but the previous versions weren't optimized for mobile devices. And mobile devices hit a different segment of the market generally. >>365643 Yes, but that mostly just delays and temporarily interrupts mining operations. They usually just move elsewhere eventually. >>365653 So is this confirming that you can actually change out the storage and it's not soldered in? That would make the cheapest version of the Steam Deck a significantly better value if that's the case as you can get a cheap SSD eventually if you need to install big games on it at any point.
Now that we've said all those great things about the console, I wish to point out that the battery lasts for 2 to 8 hours. x64 is power hungry.
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Accidental queue leak shows that the higher-end Deck models already reached over 100k combined reservations within a day. No word on the base model. Valve might actually have a hit on their hands.
>>365662 >Aren't you on one RIGHT NOW? Don't know about you fags but I'm posting from my Dreamcast
>>365661 I mean a laptop playing a game is going to last 2 to 8 hours as well. There are very few laptops that can even get 16+ hours just doing basic browser tasks and streaming videos if I'm not mistaken, so it just has typical laptop battery life if you're actively playing a game. I'd be more interested in the non-gaming battery life.
>>365664 I really gotta get on that DreamPi.
>>365640 I can see some Linux first vendors like System76 and StarLabs offering mini PC that can be installed anywhere with ease with SteamOS preinstalled, and maybe some GAMER™ brands doing the same but 2x uglier and more expensive. I doubt big PC brands will bother with it since the OS isn't intended for general purpose. >>365647 >If Valve is intelligent they'll make it more transparent by releasing a compatibility list that integrates directly with Steam If Valve is intelligent they will beg EA, Activision and Ubisoft to port their cashgrab games (FIFA, CoD, AC) to Linux, or at least to help them to make their DRM run with WINE/Proton. There's no other way to make normaltards not hate a product that doesn't play their shit games, and no amount of warnings, disclaimers and tutorials will convince them to change their opinion. >>365652 ><hype HYPE But yes, even if this doesn't sell well between normalfags and GAMERS™ it has enough features to entertain /t/raps for a while until Valve axes out the product or somebody decides to make a "free/libre" alternative that results more interesting for them (even if it's less functional). >>365663 wew, but some guy's word on Twitter means nothing without proofs, and even if 1M people decide to buy there's still the >80IQ barrier carried by absolutely any device that isn't a pre-built PC/laptop with Windows™.
>>365662 >Anon, how is it going to make laptops obsolete without a fucking keyboard? Most people don't actually need a physical keyboard for their day to day computer usage. When they do need to type some shit they're probably at home anyways, in which case you can dock the thing up to one. The keyboard isn't as much of an issue as the controllers being non-detachable. No one is going to want to whip out their weird gamer device in the coffee shop. If it was just a basic tablet form factor with slide on controllers it would have a more laptop appeal to it.
>>365652 You forgot the golden rule, faggot: If it's too good to be true, then it usually is. You've made the fatal mistake of assuming Valve isn't bullshitting about anything regarding their device yet. All the stars-in-eyes clowns dreaming about muh value need to wait for benchmarks. "Potential" is meaningless when all we have is a look at the exterior of the device. But sure, go ahead and think that you're more "technically astute" because you fall for marketing. >>365663 >100k There are at least that many Valvedrones with more money than sense anyway who will buy the thing just for novelty's sake. On that note the biggest Valvedrone I know (bought an Index) took one look at this thing and said "Ew, Zen2."
>>365666 This thing is meant for playing games, so this is a drawback. If you run a game and you can only play for 2 hours that sucks. DS Lite lasted 10 hours on average brightness.
>>365668 >wew, but some guy's word on Twitter means nothing without proofs He's the guy behind SteamDB, it's unlikely he'd make something like that up.
With that Nick Smash game that looks better than Smash itself and Valve making a Switch-like PC for only $50 more than the Switch OLED, I wonder if Nintendo will act as complacent as they always do or if they'll start getting competitive again.
>>365662 >Text edited in vidya especially with the Guilty Gear taiwan shit also could count as censorhship. In GG's case the content was replaced from the existing version, while in the meme's case the original and the edit coexist at the same time and people are free to save the one they like the most. Anyways I don't want to derail the thread again with this topic. >>365662 >Anon, how is it going to make laptops obsolete without a fucking keyboard? I think he's trying to say that this thing competes with laptops as GAMING™ devices, not as general purpose ones, and he's right. People who spend money on somewhat powerful laptops solely to play games on them and be able to carry their device with relatively ease will be interested in the Deck because it does the same thing but (at first glance) better. And if Valve does things right the Deck can even replace a laptop in other areas, provided that you have the dock and peripherals, of course. >>365674 I see. I'm not aware of the people behind things. >>365676 I doubt Nintendo is worried about any of these things. They know that most of their user base are interested in their games and only theirs, and as long as things stay like that Nintendo won't give a shit about other video game companies.
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>>365678 >if I see anyone out there in the internet or irl using one of these I will most definetly cringe at them That actually is my reaction when I see somebody playing with a handheld in public and even when I'm the one playing. It just feels strange to play outside the bedroom or living room.
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>>365623 >>365566 >>365675 The problem isn't the memes existing, it's that they've been constantly reused for years now and are stale. Now I don't have an issue with Template memes, a Template is fine, but when the same fucking Template is used for years that just shows a complete lack of effort to come up with something a little original. When I made Pics related, I at least pictured them in my head first, and then put some bare minimum effort, into making my thoughts into an image. I didn't just find the current meme that has been regurgitate Over and Over and Over again, and Regurgitate it Yet another time.
>>365690 >ninja gaiden 3 >star wars >the prequel trilogy of star wars You're making it difficult to take you seriously.
>>365350 >>365347 It takes some persistence, but demand isn't so high that it's impossible to get a reservation. I got my reservation 90 minutes after 10 AM PDT by right-clicking and reloading in the application until the page loaded and I could add it to the cart. There are further complications with the payment process but I was patient and waited a few minutes between attempts. >>365350 It depends. The most obvious analogue from a benchmark perspective is an AMD Radeon HD 7950. Other analogues are the GTX 1050s/1050 Tis/R9 280s but since they are Jewvidia chipsets they naturally get inflated prices. Last I checked 7950s go for $90 USD used on average, but this was a month or two ago when I checked. Also for the niggers in the thread who think this is only good enough to be a Gay the Spire machine, I suggest you queue up some LowSpecGaymer videos. Shitty Venezuelan as he may be, he illustrates the market the Deck is set to crush. >>365661 It's nothing new for people who have a GPD Win. Again, a lot of users in the thread lack the frame of reference for the Deck's "competitors" and how it outperforms them while addressing their pain points. >>365662 >oh look another 4cuck nigger who has zero familiarity with Linux 1) Onscreen keyboards. 2) Linux firmware is so solid you can connect any random-ass keyboard and it would be compatible without having to use Bluetooth >>365672 Yes, agreed. But when you have enough familiarity with the hardware releases it's not difficult to mathematically peg potential benchmarks and performance tiers before the real ones come out. I already was surmising that the PS5 and XSX chipsets were based off AMD RX 5700 SKUs before benchmarks confirmed them; why do you think I am specifically mentioning chipsets like the GTX 1050 Ti and the Radeon HD 7950? Let me ask you, have you been keeping track of the progression of integrated graphics performance over the past decade and how chipsets have improved in comparison to each other? Through that data you can ascertain a good estimate of the device's performance before it hits the market. Considering there were rumors that the Deck, then called the Pal, was going to use the Van Gogh chipset that AMD was seeking a buyer for and the official announcement confirmed those very same specs in those supposed rumors, I already have solid data to work off of. A lot of the press coming out serves to back up the technical specs as well. I'm not just pissing and farting my dreams of a "Switch Pro," I'm basing my estimates off of historical precedent. It's not ludricrous that the chipset can match the performance of what used to be a top-line GPU in 2010-2013, if the same applies retroactively for other chipsets (e.g. 2012 smartphone GPUs being equivalent to sixth generation console chipsets in performance). Next you'll be telling me that the idea of the Deck plugging into a monitor and using it like a desktop is stupid even though Valve was probably inspired by Purism marketing the same feature for its Librem Linux smartphone.
>>365692 I never said they were amazingly creative images they were just things that popped into my head, and I felt a little inspired to make them. Also NG3's Razor's Edge is fine. Yeah it's not better then NG Black or NG 2, but it's far from bad, it helps I never played Vanilla NG3 i'm sure, but if you ignore the story that makes Ryu completely out of character compared to NG1 and 2, then NG3RE is good, Yeah it doesn't play exactly like the other 2 games due to removing essense and items, but NG2 doesn't play all that much like NG Black either, I'm fine with each game having it's own pace of gameplay.
>>365693 You're making educated guesses, but results are king. You'll just make yourself look like a marketer if you go around waving your stack of papers around saying "my calculations based on other devices with similar chipsets and architecture" -- nevermind that they haven't revealed the actual parts in use here -- "show that this device will perform well." Again, you're assuming the device specs won't change at all before release. All of your data and conclusions rests on the shaky foundation of a marketing press release. Given that pre-orders are available already, you could be enticing people to buy into a scam. This isn't exactly likely but still possible. They aren't being vague for no reason. You are beginning to look like someone who wishes to build hype. >Next you'll be telling me that the idea of the Deck plugging into a monitor and using it like a desktop is stupid even though Valve was probably inspired by Purism marketing the same feature for its Librem Linux smartphone. I don't know why you'd assume that, if a device like this were to ever interest me it would only be used for that feature. I have shit eyesight and holding this monster looks like it would get uncomfortable after just an hour. It's even bigger than a Wii U gamepad, and that thing certainly wasn't comfortable to use. >>365696 I'm just ribbing you anon.
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>>365633 >But considering how much they've stuck with proton and how good it is now, and that this system is tightly integrated with proton, the good old "cautiously optimistic" buzzword comes to mind. I just want to reiterate the obvious, because I honestly never thought I'd see the day, but this is really the first time one of the major game retailers/producers have put out a piece of hardware that is basically run on CFW out of the box. The removal of the walled garden and shit people have been dreaming about for decades now. Sony, of call companies, actually came the closest to something like this with Linux on the PS2 and OtherOS for the PS3 - but they were hardly baked in, were limited in functionality, and the moment Sony got the suspicion that it might possibly could cost them a sale or two - promptly removed it and invited you to suck their dick - even under pain of class action lawsuit.
>>365633 >>365706 I remember when companies used to market the fact their systems were modular. Remember how big of a deal they made about that with the PS2? And Sony said you could install Linux on the PS3 before release, only to backpedal and make it the most locked down PlayStation system at that time. The Steam Deck not being a "walled garden" feels so radically different to how these kinds of systems have worked for so long that I wouldn't have considered it inside the Overton window for a gaming company. I want it to be a success just so it has an impact on the industry.
>>365663 This wasn't during the "first day", the reservations just went live around the time he made those posts. Look how quickly the numbers went up between tweets.
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>>365717 >Remember how big of a deal they made about that with the PS2? Yeah, and I fell for the hype hard. Turns out pretty much all that shit was just smoke and mirrors in order to classify the PS2 as a computer system, rather than luxury/entertainment, and skirt import taxes. To their credit, they did actually release all that stuff including a custom Linux OS, but that was about the extent of it. Just enough to cover their asses. They certainly didn't advertise or support it post-launch... and I never had it, but I heard the documentation for it all was complete shit. The only part of it that saw any level of real support was the modem, and it wasn't out at launch. Even when it did launch, they didn't have any sort of unified network the Sega had with SegaNet or MS did with Xbox Live. Each game had to handle their own online services individually. Kind of a mess really.
*raises paw* Does the Steam Deck have any relation to that chip shortage crippling gorrious nippon systems at the moment? Is it somehow exempt?
>>365800 >Does the Steam Deck have any relation to that chip shortage crippling gorrious nippon systems at the moment? Is it somehow exempt? Not really. The chip shortage is fucking every industry that requires them, not just consoles and PCs. >Is it somehow exempt? I doubt it.
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There's potential here but knowing valve they're going to fuck it up. It's not for me since the main thing that's kept me from getting a gaming laptop is the lack of longevity from being unable to upgrading the parts.
>>364484 Cause debian sucks. and most of the linux users who heavily used steam were memejaro/archfags
>>365915 * notices your upset * owo
>>364221 I want to see windows get shit fucked by a new generation of linux developers. I want this to succeed.
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>>365888 <--Heiled >There's potential here but knowing valve they're going to fuck it up. Meme responsibly, anon.

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>>365679 >"...but you can play porn games on it"
>>365630 I'd be a success among linux hobbists thats for sure. What i don't know is if the larget gaming community would be down for it, but from what i can tell there is a large amount of traffic on the web just dedicated to watching linux stuff as even for the regular pc user the concept is intregeting to say the least. probably not insane reception but intreging. Theres also the fact that this was displayed front page on the steam store. which obviously is it's own advertising giant. The biggest question for me is not if this will succeed in it's own right but if it will create larger attention to the linux ecosystem like many of valves other "failed" projects. Steam controller gave users a better and more improved custom mapping tools Steam machines gave linux games and paved the way for proton. This i hope this tears down the barrier that locks most normal users from the ecosystem which could have lots of differing effects on how games are made/marketed. perhaps one thing is this could put fire to ass on anti-cheats who have been the only reason for proton's short comings in recent years. This could also force developers to more widely adapt more cross-platform engines/toolkits or even force microsoft and epic to actually fucking support linux in some real manor.
>>365387 >The problem with games is that they all ship with the maximize texture size Textures are just images, that sounds ridiculous.
>>365982 >>365387 I remember hearing when Rage was still new that they were hyping up there "Mega Textures" that where supposed to be something that make every surface of the game unique and not just copy pasting Textures all over the place. But that resulted in the game's file size being massive for the time. it's 25 GB, but that sounds almost smaller then the standard nowadays when it comes to AAA games.
>>365982 Not really. When you hear 8k, remember that's 64 times bigger than 1k textures. Fifteen 8k textures is almost the same as a thousand 1k textures. Now remember that most games have hundreds if not thousand of unique textures. Things get very big very fast, which is how you get games like CoD being over 200GB.
>>365557 >Steam Deck-tan is a muscle girl I'm OK with this.
>>365676 I hope Nintendo brings back a proper handheld in response. The disappearance of the GB/DS left a big hole in the market.
>>366028 The Yakuza joke was relatable as I couldn't get any of my friends for the life of me to emulate the older games.
>>366217 To be fair you're not missing much by playing Kiwami 1 over Yakuza 1. You're either stuck with silly flashback cutscenes of Y0's Nishiki and the majima everywhere system or the first rough iteration of the PS2 combat system. 2 I can completely see and get behind recommending over Kiwami 2, but not 1. >>365557 I like that.
>"All models use socketed 2230 m.2 modules (not intended for end-user replacement)" So it's confirmed you can socket in new SSD's, just that it's not intended to be done by the average retard and will probably require complete disassembly.
>>366233 Starting with Yakuza 0 or Kiwami 1 gives people an entirely warped perspective on how important Majima is to the games. The thing that makes Majima finally getting a backstory in 0 cool is because his character is slowly built up over time, In Yakuza 1 he was just your obligatory Rival boss fight character, but dispite being so unimportant to the plot he was memorable because of his attitude, the bosses with him actually being Pretty damn challenging, and the Awesome theme he had, Receive You the Prototype. Majima showing up a little more in each sequel being abit more developed over time is really cool, and that makes finally seeing his whole deal in Yakuza 0 work so much more. Kiwami 1 has more Majima then every other game before Yakuza 0 combined, and your given WAY too much characterization of him, that makes it extremely blatant that he's supposed to be a good guy in this series. The Majima everywhere system also completely deflates when he actually shows up in the story, and the changed his theme during the actual Story bosses, in order to actually hear Receive you The Prototype, you need to get all the way to the end of Majima Everywhere and settle the Score with him, but by that point you've already fought Majima 100 times, and your going to destroy him, Finally hearing Receive You The Prototype is supposed to be awesome, but if someone hasn't played OG Yakuza 1 hearing that version of the song doesn't mean anything to them. I like Majima everywhere as a Remix of the game, but I don't think it improves Yakuza 1's pacing at all. I also think the added Nishiki Scenes answer more questions then needed to be answered. Yeah Yakuza 0 adds way more characterization for Nishiki so I guess they kind of had to add more to him in Kiwami 1, but in OG Yakuza 1 I found Nishiki's becoming the villain during that 10 year gap more interesting to imagine then actually see. The Yakuza is a Ruthless origination, I can imagine that Nishiki had to be put though some Hard fucking shit that changed him, and coming out the way he did was the only thing could do if he was going to Survive and make it to the top. Kiwami just makes Nishiki's backstory a ridiculous sob story, where everything that changes him feels like it happens over the course of a week, instead of 10 years. The OG Yakuza 1 can be beaten fairly quickly so it's not like it's an unreasonable game to start with, I think Kiwami is good Remix of the game, but I don't think it's a good Replacement.
>>364234 This is something the trackpads would be nice for. I could see it making an okay mouse replacement, which is why it exists. now all they need is a flipout keyboard and it's perfect.
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>>365968 >linux hobbyists There's not much of those interested in optimizing GNU+Linux for tablets. I hope that changes with this, but I will not be surprised if it ends up becoming a disaster for both Linux devs and gamers.
>>366332 Is there information on how the tablet functions? Will my x200 stylus work on it? I don't quite understand tablet technology. Are tablet styluses unique to each tablet interface?
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just buy a laptop lmao. hand-helds were only fun when they were durable lightweight low power devices with charming and original games developed for them. remember when literally everone and their grandma had a NDS and you could play multiplayer with class-mates / friends? I get the appeal of being able to take "AAA PC games" everywhere you go, but that idea was realized 20 years ago. this thing is so big soy-boy's will have trouble holding it and the x86 will make their palms sweaty and it will be dropped. it is inferior to a laptop and has none of the appeal of classic handhelds. With that said I wouldn't mind it being successful as its one step closer to having a real-world "linux for niggers".
>>366340 The entire reason I don't want a gaming Laptop is because trying to play on one in the back seat during a long car ride would be clunky as fuck with the keyboard, I find the Steam Deck Appealing because it just removes what makes a Laptop unwieldy in a small area with no desk or table to put it on, and there is the added benefit of having the dock to easily plug into any screen when you get to where your going. Yeah a Laptop can basically do the same since they are both PC's but the shape of the Steam Deck just makes everything incredibly easy, and idiot proof I imagine. I would want one as something that can finally be a replacement for my PSP.
>>366340 Laptops are expensive and generally much heavier. And every scenario I can think of where I would use a laptop and its keyboard I would probably just be at home anyways. When you're out and about there are very few scenarios where I could see needing a full fat keyboard to do things on. So the smaller and lighter form factor of a tablet with some touch pads on the side seems more appropriate. When I'm home I can dock it and use it as a desktop, and when I'm not it is a tablet and gaming controller. Plus at the price point I don't think many laptops come even close in terms of price to gaming performance since it's using an RDNA 2 GPU.
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>>366358 >>366348 lmao I remember being 15.
>>366366 I can't imagine whipping out a Steam Deck "in public". I meant more like going innawoods or when traveling for some reason. There are times when portability is useful without you literally whipping it out on a park bench or something. It's also equally as retarded when people go to the park just to read books, frankly.
>>366035 That's not going to happen. The whole reason why the switch exists was to allow nintendo exit the console market with plausible deniability.
>>366366 >unironically posting quentin Wew lad.
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>>366381 never forgetti
>>366375 Nobody is going to look at you funny when you're using it at an airport lobby or on a bus with headphones and you're stuck with hours to fill. That's half the reason the Japanese are even interested in it. >>366358 >Plus at the price point I don't think many laptops come even close in terms of price to gaming performance since it's using an RDNA 2 GPU. Quite literally as the "competition" expected you to pay $800+ for shitty chinkshit integrated graphics for years. The device essentially is on par with any system with a GTX 1050 Ti, except portable. And with the M2 and the performance like other anons have said it's set to be the emulation device. Switch may take some time to get to 60fps but I can see the device running Xenoblade 2 at a fixed 720p30fps with the current Yuzu and Ryujinx builds as opposed to fluctuation to 504p on native, and there are still a few months to launch which could provide perfermance optimizations to the emulators. I personally see this running RCPS3 really well.
>>366366 You know what is infantile? caring about what others think. It's your money, you can fuck it in public for all anyone cares.
>>366519 Pretty sure people care enough about that to get you arrested anon.
>>366332 >There's not much of those interested in optimizing GNU+Linux for tablets bullshit that is literally all gnome, redhat and debianfags do these days..
>>366340 >no numpad
>Steam deck launches and is successful >normalfags buy it because Gaben told them, Anons buy it to install Gentoo and play Rance innawoods, FOSS drivers just werk and the battery life is somehow acceptable >Steam deck 2 launches with a 1080p 120hz screen, Zen 3+RDNA 3 APU, most expensive model has a PCIe slot for NVMe SSDs >neither are sold in West Taiwan because a random KDE contributor made an obscure Taiwan related joke in a source code comment 15+ years ago and the CCP found out >Valve is now favorably competing against Nintendo's Switch 2 which is just a Qualcomm ARMv8 Tablet with actual Adreno driver documentation and a small Tegra wrapper for backwards compatibility, Nintendo tries to sue Yuzu devs for being greedy niggers but Gabe secretly bankrolls their Lawyers >EGS BTFO back to West Taiwan, they try to counter with uncensored VNs but then some chink complains about alleged mentions of East Taiwan in a Nijisanji licensed DLC and Xi shuts it down >Steam deck 1 bootleg clones emerge on the Brazilian market, Hues and Chinks duke it out for ethnic supremacy in multiplayer servers at the expense of everyone else >Soyny Computer Entertainment is a subsidiary of Sega, Squeenix got bought by Amazon after moving their HQ to California in a last ditch attempt to recoup sales in the western market following the shutdown of FFXIV to West Taiwanese demands >Nintendo considers either entering the smartphone business with their own phone and app store or making their own digital store/service for PC games, eyes RISC-V hardware for the phone plan to distance themselves from Nvidia-owned ARM >GPU prices have crashed with no survivors after Ethereum switched to a PoS model, AMD holds 60% of the desktop CPU market and Intel is living off of US military contracts >Windows 11 hit by waves of ransomware using JS exploits in the Edge browser to cripple the entire OS as everything is a quasi-browser window, most normalfags still prefer Win10 and M$ can't force updates down everyone's throat like they could back in the day due to Win11's TPM 2.0 requirement >M$ and Nvidia are planning to launch an Xbox tablet handheld to get back at Nintendo and Valve >Vita emulation is still shit
>>364164 With exclusives like this, how can it possibly fail? Nintendo and Sony BTFO. But honestly, if the Steam Dick catches on - how long will it be before they start ramping up the censorship in order to make it more mass market friendly? I mean, on the one hand - it's a literal PC. There's nothing they can do to stop porn on it. But on the other hand, they know most "casual consumer" fags are so conditioned by their console walled rape gardens that most of their customers will never venture beyond Big Picture Mode.
>>366340 >"linux for niggers". I think I still got the iso still languishing around somewhere.
>>366688 > how long will it be before they start ramping up the censorship in order to make it more mass market friendly? Valve has done the exact opposite over the years, I doubt they'll go back to their 2010 era policies. You pretty much have to actively look for porn games, anyway.
>>366680 >Windows 11 hit by waves of ransomware using JS exploits in the Edge browser to cripple the entire OS as everything is a quasi-browser window, most normalfags still prefer Win10 and M$ can't force updates down everyone's throat like they could back in the day due to Win11's TPM 2.0 requirement Modern Edge is based on Chromium so unlikely unless Chromium itself gets fucked. Of course that would be even better since we might actually see a third viable browser show up again.
>>366689 >iso That's an oxymoron. Everyone knows an iso is the way a white man does it.
>>366691 Not true actually, I have clicked on the "weekly sales" on the side of the Steam website I thought I was going to the winter sales page to be immediately greeted with a futa VN in all its phallic glory. I probably have a safe search option turned off though.
>>366708 but it came with the instruction to only use stolen USBsticks
>>364224 You could buy it for portability, but mostly it's not for you. This isn't a PC marketed to PC gamers like yourself. This is a PC marketed to console gamers. The goal is to expand PC market shares while shrinking the competition, which in turn means more games for PC. Valve wins on both fronts, both more customers and more games to sell to those customers.
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>>366711 Could also have to do with your purchase history/wishlist. I was listening to some indie dev talking shit about Sony and he was mentioning how Valve has a ton of algorithms on the backend of their store which present customers with automated feeds based on your interest. Even stuff like the "top sellers" list are influenced on some level by what the AI thinks you might like. To the point of Sony - he was complaining that PSN storefront hasn't appreciably changed or evolved since the PS3 days. For the most part, their promotional feeds are hand-curated, as are their sales. So unless you're a AAA studio with some weight to throw around - or in Sony's special club and pay the 25k entry fee to be entered into an invite raffle to see if your game is even eligible for discount - you're fucked. Releasing on the PS4 is like releasing into an advertising black hole that even targeted searches for specific terms/names may not generate a hit. Not sure if it's the same guy - but I found this rant on Twitter while searching for a link to the story I mentioned. Pretty much says the same thing, but without the Valve/Microsoft comparison. Steamlabs is kind of a clusterfuck, but it seems to be the best solution anyone's manged to come up with yet.
>>366720 >never bought or played any VN's or sex games >steam keeps fucking putting some LGBTQAXYZ+-*# visual novels to me Is gabe calling me a faggot?
>>366721 Probably the same faggots at Valve that tell the nip lewds to fuck off adjust the algorithm to signal boost the globohomo shit.
>>366725 Valve very much welcomes eroge, though
>>366726 In a schizophrenic manner. I'm not a steamfag, but I've seen plenty of instances of Valve either flat out denying nip stuff or telling them to censor it.
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For me, the funniest part about the announcement is that Valve mentioned that it would run Arch with KDE just two days after some GNOME dev made a long blog post about how the "traditional desktop" was dead and never would return (using Windows 11's ugly layout as an example) and how their (over)simplicity is the future. >>366688 >how long will it be before they start ramping up the censorship in order to make it more mass market friendly? Don't worry, most porn games aren't available on Linux and run like shit on WINE (specially with mods).
>>366790 Thats pretty hilarious. Even andriod jews are reverting to standard desktop layouts. And im not surprised valve dropped gnome since it's a resource hog. KDE has surprisingly gotten a lot more light weight since the horrid kde4-earlykde5 days. Still not as good as ol lxde or xfce but its in the ball park. >Most porn games dont run on Linux I was just playing NoR and i got honeyselext and skyrim which both are heavily modded. Other porn games tend to just be VNs and that shit is easy to run since most of the time it's literally using that one python engine
>>365350 >>365351 Given the current prices of GPUs worldwide, I expect the Deck to succeed purely on the premise that people will buy it as a mid-tier gaming PC. >>365537 Meme or not, Steam still consistently offers some of the best sale prices on the market. Sometimes GOG is better, and sometimes you can catch a good humble bundle for uber-cheap games, but Steam still reigns supreme on that front. And no, I'm not married to the Steam platform or anything. I do a mix of pirating and buying (depending on the price and how much I like the developer), and I own games across GOG, Humble, Itch and Steam. >>365630 I think its success will come down to Valve's ability to successfully market it to normalfags, and if it actually receives support after launch. If they can attract a large consumer-base for this (imagine a million+ units sold), it would go a long way towards making Linux a viable platform for PC gaming. Best case scenario, developers start implementing native Linux support to cash in on this new platform, and Windows loses a ton of momentum ahead of the upcoming Windows 11 launch. Anything that damages Microsoft's near- monopoly on PC Gaming is beneficial to me. Worst case scenario, Valve's marketing (or supply) fall short and it remains a niche device used only by existing Steam power users who already own all the games they want to play on it. In that case, developers won't see enough new sales to justify supporting the Linux platform, and Steam Deck will just be another footnote in the history of "Year of the Linux Desktop" memes.
>>366790 >WINE The Deck is using Proton. Good riddance, WINE fucking sucks
>>366820 Proton is just WINE with some additional config patches and direct integration with Steam.
It's a Steam Wii U. It's a fucking Steam version of the Wii U!
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>>366824 Half-Life is just a modified version of Quake with different assets and level geometry. :^) >>366825 >It's a Steam Wii U. No way man, that's a Game Gear. A Gabe Gear, if you will.
>>366825 The Wii U is a console that can stream video to a special controller, this thing is a handheld that can be connected to a monitor with an extra component. The Deck is closer to a PSP or a Switch Lite than to a Wii U.
>>366395 >Someone beat up my friend so I'm gonna "Pumped Up Kicks" all up in dis bitch Seems to me that the friend should be the one to do the heavy lifting on that one.
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>>366824 Windows is just DOS with an additional GUI and direct integration with applications. I understand where you're coming from, but under this logic most software would just be a different version of something else.
>>366843 Windows isn't just DOS but more. It's literally built on top of DOS. Or rather it's built on top of every previous version of Windows going all the way back to DOS.
>>366827 >>366843 No, I mean that Proton literally is a fork of WINE with some downstream patches and direct integration with Steam. Even CodeWeavers (a company that develops CrossOver, its own fork of WINE with a proprietary launcher on top) is working in both projects. Link semi-related, Proton's source code: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/
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>>366850 Do not attempt to explain to techlits how circular open source development works. Let the believe everything is isolated and walled off so their applerotted microcuck brains can still function with the one braincell they have.
Another question. Can you install Adobe Premiere and Adobe Photoshop on it? Is there a Linux version of the Adobe Creative Suit?
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so is it a pc or a handheld console?
>>366897 handheld pc console.
>>366688 >if the Steam Dick catches on If we're giving it a disparaging nickname Steam Dreck would be better.
>>366720 >Could also have to do with your purchase history/wishlist. Not him but I doubt it. I have the Vive, but never bought any porn, yet Steam keeps suggesting me games like "VR Paradise" or stuff like that. I just have the search filter turned off.
>>366897 More importantly.. Is it steamdeck-tan or is it just pc-tan?
>>366914 PC-tan's slightly shorter gym buddy.
>>366897 Handheld pee-console.
>>366897 All consoles have been proprietary shitbox PC's for decades. The term console over the last 20 years has literally just referred to a locked down PC. It has no meaning outside of marketing. >>366895 There is no linux versions of abobe shit. I think you can run them through wine but I'm not sure how well they run through it. Adobe software is for niggers anyways. That company is one of the most scum fuck corporations in existence. They're worse than microsoft jewgle and apple combined.
>>366919 >Jarate-powered entertainment system Bloody hell.
>>366916 Gym buddy sounds great.
>>366914 Deck-chan. I assume she would look like switch-tan but as a muscle girl due to her also being a PC. Switch-tan will always have a hate boner for her and will occasionally detatch one of her arms and throw it at Deck-tan in a envy fueled tantrum.
>>366995 >Switch-chan is envious of Deck-chan's muscletits
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>>366897 Ultra Mobile PC or UMPC. These things have existed for decades, including models that resemble traditional handhelds focused on GAMING™ over general PC usage, but I think this is the first time that a UMPC focused on games is this cheap. These kind of devices tend to be expensive (at least $600) because they're made by small companies that need to invest in I+R for the design, can't mass produce them like big brands do, and don't have extra businesses that help to alleviate the cost. Valve is big enough to get better deals with chip manufacturers, and Steam allows hem to invest in everything needed to create the Deck without being hit in the pocket. >>366914 He (PC-tans tend to be male) is a separate entity, just like NVidia Shield.
>>366999 >no homo >5 homoerotic images in one post Sadly, it is still very homo
>>367003 gay sex isn't homo
>>367004 >homosexual sex isn't homosexual You're either really fucking gay, trans, jewish, or even worse, a Parisian.
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>>367003 Good thing that Shield is as versatile as any other PC ;^) although personally I prefer gay jokes over /ss/ porn.
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Speaking of Valve, I fell for the VR meme and bought a Valve Index. Just starting Half-Life Alyx. Drawing lewds on the window with the markers which can be difficult because Alyx's hand can press against the glass while drawing and wipe off the marker. Some of the collision models and rigging are impressive sometimes while other times they're lacking. Like for example I can't put anything through the center of the paper towel roll models, but I can place a coffee mug over top of a lot of things. Another example is the doors and trunk of a car were rigged to be moved around on the hinges, but the steering wheel cannot be turned at all. I wonder if a Vive Pro 2 would have much more detail to offer with its higher resolution since a lot of the textures in Alyx are not that sharp up close anyways. I pirated a bunch of other VR games to fuck around with. There's a lot more available via piracy now so that's why I finally bought into it. I hear the Index is notoriously fragile, but aside from a squeaky trigger and slow-to-connect issues with the right controller it seems fine so far. I put fans on the headset just in case since some people said theirs overheated and killed the screen. Longevity seems like a lottery since some have problems while others don't. I'm going to try to be gentle with the thing to avoid problems since Valve support is very hit and miss. Tried watching VR porn as well. It was okay, but pro porn is generally far too performative.
>>367009 >>366999 Im pretty sure your parents didn’t want you to end up doing shit like this. Seek Christ or something.
i think this is made for the japanese market, they have a very stubborn mentality of "PCs are for work" so they must have a different device for videogames
>>367013 I wouldn't have given them anything if they didn't have the only decent headset kit on the market. I'm pirating all my games what more do you want? There's faggots on /v/ with tens of thousands of games on their Steam accounts, who gather together to worship gabe newell during every steam sale, while the only legit game I have is Alyx because it came free with the Valve Index. I even pirated Skybox VR video player because the faggots who made it decided to make it paid software despite it being free for a long time. >Also unspoilered porn is against the rules. A pair of drawn tiddies in the background of a game screenshot ain't gonna get you a promotion at work.
>>367010 Because I can. >>367012 Nah. >>367014 There are big chances that nips like it even if they aren't the main target. They prefer to play on handhelds or phones because they don't have enough time to play with a regular console/desktop PC. For those who spend most of the day working/studying and traveling from/to work or school having something to keep themselves entertained during dead hours is a blessing.
>>367006 There's no prove gay sex is homosexual
>>367010 >/ss/ >garbage double nigger.
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>>367026 Wrong mother, I'm into yours.
>>366914 >More importantly.. Is it steamdeck-tan or is it just pc-tan? It's toaster in drag.
>>367029 I might get a kick out of this :^)
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>>367029 >Hope you like them old, fat and cranky That's the best kind.
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>>367028 It can't be Toaster-tan since the Steam Deck will actually be able to run Crisis.
>>367046 Deck is gonna be Toaster's younger sister, but she'll be taller and more buff than him.
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>>367046 >I gotta try.
>>367051 >younger brother All PC-tan are male.
>>366951 >>366995 PC-tan railing Deck-tan while Switch looks on with seething jealous when.
>>366921 Nobody pays for it anyway. And it's the only company who makes a program like premiere or after effects. Any other programs are just glorified window movie maker clones.
>>367053 No, make Deck-tan a grill. MY DICK DEMANDS IT
>>367055 OLED switch in a threesome with the buff PC tan and Deck tan bullying her for being underpowered and not swole like they are. possibly even a yuri threesome because PC-tan is emulating switch games
>>367055 A non-passing twink wearing a dog print dress.
>>367053 >>367051 The Steam Deck meets all requirements for being a gaming console and not a PC, she's female. We can argue that the Steamdeck can be hypothetically used for other things ala Linux, but no one is going to do that outside of novelty.
>>366897 It's a gaming console. It's a dedicated gaming computer, as opposed to a general computer.
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>>366951 >>367055 Deck-tan bench pressing Switch-tan without her consent when. >>366897 >>367092 I would have liked the UFO more due to it being able to look like a tablet instead of a console therefore you can go out in public with it and use it for general purpose shit without anyone judging you or giving you weird looks. This shit became my dream handheld PC console tan and I won't be happy until I get one of these instead, its asthetics and functionality are just too good to pass up. I couldn't give less of a shit about the Deck, it looks like shit.
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>>367099 >Alienshit
>>367099 I really wish Valve went the joycon route with the controller part of the device. It would be cool to have just an x86 tablet with attachable controllers. But I'm sure that would have shot up the price a lot.
>>367099 >Deck-tan bench pressing Switch-tan without her consent when. I don't know why but I find that idea more sexually appealing than any lewd art would be.
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>>367099 PC-tan mating pressing Switch-tan without her consent while Deck-tan holds her down and maybe makes out with Switch-tan
>>367051 >but she'll be taller and more buff than him No, she's got to be shorter and more buff than him. Strong short stack. >>367053 >All PC-tan are male. Actually, scratch what I said before. Steam deck could be a stout dwarf.
>>367099 To be honest, I think you'd get more weird looks for whipping out a massive tablet to look at emails instead of just using your phone, and it'd be easier to look over your shoulder. If it's clear it's a gaming device, the massive size would be more understandable.
>>367099 <Therefore you can go out in public with it and use it for general purpose shit without anyone judging you or giving you weird looks >Not whipping out your console in public so the females know where to get that giant gamer girth >Alienware
>>367090 Deck-tan is trans. It is a PC in the body of a console. Ultimately its "canon" design will be decided by whoever creates more art of a particular design. So if you want it to be a muscle girl better rev up the pencil and canvas.
>>367136 It's a cheap plastic robot with a CCP sticker on its face.
>>367011 Fucking hell that looks good
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>>367136 >Deck-tan is trans. But Valve fully admits and encourages it's use as a PC. It's not trans, it's just a cuteboi cross dresser trying to be prettier than the girls and succeeding. Not every guy that puts on a pair of panties actually wants to be a girl. Some of them just want a little extra excitement on the weekends. A probably not surprising amount of crossdressers actually fucking hate trannies. I still think it should be toasty or some variant, but put him in a dress and have him riding on a segway.
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>>367142 No one wants this but you faggot.
>>367143 I want to dock with a cuteboi at his house so we can play netplay gamecube games together on our steamdicks
>>367142 >>367136 >>367090 the fuck is wrong with you niggers?
>>367099 >Dell anything Horrible!
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>>367143 Heh, it wouldn't even be the first trap console-tan. >>367146 I'm bored.
>>367136 >trans The correct term is tranny. Go back to wherever you came from.
>>367150 no youre gay
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>>367090 It literally runs on Linux retard and it's not hard to access the browser part of the device. >>367150 Only the worst of consoles are traps. The Deck also isn't a Console.
>>367151 >>367152 It's a joke you retards. Do I really need to put a fucking :^) or some reddit-tier "sarcasm tag" for you not to take it seriously? >>367155 >The Deck also isn't a Console. Yes, and PC like the Deck are male.
>>367156 >It's a joke you retards. Do I really need to put a fucking :^) or some reddit-tier "sarcasm tag" for you not to take it seriously? I assume all this homo porn was also just saved to your HDD as a joke.
>>367136 ok good, just making sure.
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>>367159 I'm getting everything from a console-tan booru I found while I first searched from Shield-tan. I found the other "trap-tan" after seeing them with Shield in a couple of pics. I personally prefer my homo porn without trap/femboy shit.
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tf has to go wrong in your life to where youre fapping to an imaginary faggot crossdresser manifestation of valves unreleased ouya ripoff? literally have sex you fucking faggots or at the very least go masturbate so that the rest of us can have a brief respite from your homoerotic fantasies youre literally fetishizing the company that singlehandedly ended physical releases for PC, drove countless ma and pa PC gaming boutiques out of biz, and set the standard of every new release having DRM read: literal spyware they are the literal harbingers of you dont own nothin goyim DEATH TO GABEN DEATH TO ISRAEL
>>367167 Go fuck a camel, sandnigger.
>>367175 i will fuck your mother allah wills it
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>>367167 At any time someone with a PC can choose to just Never Pay for anything again, and anyone who gets a Steam Deck will have that option available to them easier then even the PSP which was a Pirates paradise. Even if you hate Valve and Steam, I honestly don't see the Steam Deck being a bad thing for PC gaming going forward.
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>>367167 Inshallah brother, death to these infidels. Also glowies, this isn't satire. You can't touch me, I live on the other side of the planet.
>>367167 >stop having fun no
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>>367182 >but I have phimosis Shit me too, that's probably why I subconsciously more or less became a submissive faggot since I can't really pull it back and know that women would freak out over it
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>>367182 >>367185 >foreskin
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>>367189 Yeah Mark, a genuine and fully intact FORESKIN. You Jealous?
Those curious about how portable PCs perform with games should watch videos of the GDP Win 3, the Aya Neo and similar chink devices, and then imagine them with an extra bit of power. >>367167 Muslims rape little boys in the open while claiming that it's not gay because they're prepubescent. If you're going to larp as some crusader of purity and morals at least pick a religion that is less hypocrite and degenerate. >>367189 >he doesn't have his natural protective layer What are you, cattle marked at birth by Jews?
>>367193 >and then imagine them with an extra bit of power to match the Deck's specs.*
>>367195 I wa actually scheduled for one but it got delated due to the chink flu, they gave me some cream for the mean time and told me to do stretching and peeling exercises, which I really haven't much.
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Found Pic Related.
>>367167 >singlehandedly ended physical releases Sounds like you're an underage shitter to me, both small retailers going down the shitter due to the 2007 crisis, console focus due to a new generation of consolekiddies and GFLW ridden physical copies were the reason Steam got as big as it did.
>>367200 >Tomboy >Silver hair >Tanned skin >Abs >Big tiddies >Fang Muh...
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>>367180 >tfw no Sonic pirate game
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>>367205 These actually are Official Designs put in the Mobile game. So it's possible the idea could pop up at some point, but at the very least there are already mods.
>>367229 Jesus that sounds fucking horrible. It's not like a neet piece of shit like me is ever getting laid but like this i'm literally unable to. I'll see what I can do, regardless my future is grim but finding similar people in this site does give me a sligth solace that I am not entirely alone in this struggle.
>>367200 Fucking awful
>>367231 Theres 7 billion people on this planet anon, you're never alone in any struggle. People out there have stretched their foreskins out manually by hand (and with the cream) but I heard it took maybe weeks or months to pull it off.
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>>367279 >People out there have stretched their foreskins out manually by hand Do they make a mini one of these for your penis to help with that?
>>367355 No they use a small weighted metallic ball that is pressed against cockhead, and then foreskin strectched over ball and tied off with string. Gravity does the rest.
>>367200 Yes. YES.
FIT GIRLS NOT DICK GIRLS
>>367358 I can get behind this subject matter.
>>367358 >>367359 Nobody was even talking about that This thread is about the Steam Deck why are you all so porn obsessed?
>>367360 Because the actual hardware will be forgotten post release like the steam controller will be, but the porn will not. The hardware will be mediocre at best and will most likely be restricted on the HW and SW side so I don't expect anything more than Nvidia's Shield with Steam's logos.
>>367363 Then go to /h/ or something dude, you don't need to try to derail a thread for something you don't like
>>366688 >how long will it be before they start ramping up the censorship in order to make it more mass market friendly? Valve has never been one to care about the "mass market", see their 1000 dollar VR headset
>>367363 >Because the actual hardware will be forgotten post release like the steam controller will be I won't be buying a Deck but I doubt that, there's a big difference between a controller and a pseudo-console. I'm also seeing way, way more people talking about the Deck than I did with the Steam Controller
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>>364858 They say they want it to play modified monhun portably.
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>>364860 OH, PORTABLE APEX THIS DECEMBER! PLAY ALL STEAM GAMES INCLUDING APEX! Rest is specs and play time. >>364861 SteamDeck, as expected, this is godly. Will be a necessary tool for fighting gamers on the go. >>364862 Steam's portable gaming PC "Steam Deck" has been announced! The specs are so super, you have to buy it though! >>364865 How SteamDeck is called (what I seen today) -gabeboy -gamegear -lynx >>364870 What's amazing about Steam Deck, "platform configuration with Linux + Proton + Steam, if it's the same config then games run more smoothly", yet despite this, "as a config, it will run if you put Wangblows on it". And the point,making that hardware at that price "if it isn't platformer's power skills, you can't do it".
I'm enjoying the shit show the steam deck caused by just existing.
>>367398 >>367402 Thank you very much, anon.
>>367415 I agree. It breathes new life into the console market.
>>367415 Honestly I am not seeing all that much of a shitshow, mostly PC gamers feeling smug that they can now buy a more powerful tablet top play PC games on it, and thinking that Nintedodrones are angry at this. Why should they be angry? That the Switch has shit hardware? We are talking about people that bought a DS or a 3DS when it had shit hardware, compared to a PSP or Vita. We are talking about people who bought a Wii or a Wii U when it had shit hardware compared to a 360 or a PS3. They don't care about hardware. The games? I agree that they are notorious for begging for ports I remember the buthurt with Persona 5, and sometimes it works and they get their ports, but I can't say PC fags are any less guilty of this, especially if it's on Epic Store. Also it's not like you easily play every single PC games on it, I doubt you can play FPS games on it, as I doubt the trackpad is a good substitute for a mouse. You might say it can emulate Switch games, so there is no reason to own a Switch anymore, but we do not know that for sure, we will have to wait for it to get released, though I guess it will emulate some, but not all Switch games. >>367439 >I agree. It breathes new life into the console market. I doubt it, PCs and laptops have existed for a long time, I doubt Nintendo or Nintendodrones will care about this all that much. Maybe Sony might make the Vita 2, now that would be something. Hopefully it would force devs to develop more games that support Linux, that would also be something. I am sure someone will call me a shill or a Nintendodrone, so I should mention, that I do not own a Switch, nor am I interested in it, as I can emulate the games on my PC, but I am not interested in the Steam Pal either. I hope it can succeeds it bringing more games that support Linux, natively, instead of using Wine, but I doubt it will hurt Nintendo in the portable market.
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>>367415 I know. due to remembering this quote I was inspired to make Pic Related, it's not even that great of a meme, but the intention behind it was to just make fun of the entire PC Master Race Console war thing, and the Tribal mentality people always have where they want to pick one side of superiority for corporations that just want their money, and when I posted it around a little I legitimately caused a console war with Nintendo fans trying their damnedest to act like they aren't mad and say that "It doesn't have Nintendo games" The reaction I got was way funnier then I intended since It I got the double whammy of Salty Nintendo fans, and people Offended I made a Shindler's List meme.
>>367454 >PCs and laptops have existed for a long time None of it was ever marketed as a handheld console with gamepad and if it was only with Winblows where the normalfag editions rape all users. And not by a big company like Valve. Nintendo shit has only been getting more expensive. Remember how back in the day games where like 20 Eurobucks or less for DS and GBA? Now they are like 50 Eurobucks and the consoles are also many times more expensive. >muh inflation Not at that rate. Not even close. Very far away. I think this is a very good move by Valve. Third party support is what made Winblows big and with Open Source software they have the best chances at getting that.
>>367458 >And not by a big company like Valve. Valve also marketed the Steam PCs and those were mostly a failure, just because Valve is behind them, that does not guarantee a success, but that doesn't mean it can't be successful. >Now they are like 50 Eurobucks and the consoles are also many times more expensive. Part of the problem is that games developed for a 3DS/Switch which take full advantage of the hardware take more time, resources and people to develop as opposed to a Gameboy game. Voice Acting can inflate the budget of your game, as well as HD 3D graphics, as opposed to some tiny 2D sprites. >I think this is a very good move by Valve I agree, and hopefully Valve will support this device. I wonder if Epic Games/Tencent will also release their own portable device to compete with Valve. >>367455 Not sure why having Rootkit Impact on your device should be seen as a plus.
>>367455 It will be great seeing the autistic defenders of both Valve and Nintendo go head to head for once. I expect a lot of laughs, a lot of memes, a minor amount of porn and a good time all round.
>>365630 Niche success at best. I don't even see it dethroning the Switch due to the gravity Nintendo's name holds in the public consciousness, and the lack of marketing to normies that's required to be a success in the mainstream. That being said, I think those that like the Switch and have a Steam account with a bunch of games already will really like it, especially since it has analog triggers, which is undoubtedly the Switch's biggest shortcoming hardware wise. Going by the Valve Index's control sticks, don't expect these to last long without drift comparable with Joycons. Aside from that the battery life seems lackluster. I just hope it has quick charge so you can just have a battery bank in your bag for playing longer than 2 hours. A kickstand would also be nice, since it's basically the ultimate multimedia machine that I wanted as a kid on those long roadtrips.
>>367469 Plenty of PC players are blissfully unaware of how anything works beyond treating their PC's exactly like a console, Apparently the "problem" was "Patched out" but even if it wasn't I doubt it would have that much of an impact on people who just play the game for Waifus. >>367501 But this actually makes me realize that the Steam Deck could finally shine a huge spotlight on Denuvo. if you attempt to launch a Denuvo game after too long having not connected that individual game to the servers then the game doesn't launch, and it gives you a DRM Message. The entire idea behind the Steam Deck is getting to play all your steam games offline anywhere you go. Suddenly allot of people are going to find out They can't play there games they paid full price for at launch offline after a few weeks of leaving it alone.
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>>367512 That mp4 was way bigger then I thought it was.
>>367509 I'm highly amused by the idea of getting this Hot commodity peice of Teck before hundreds of thousands of other people and using it to play older or near 20 year old Legacy of Kain games.
>>367454 >I doubt it, PCs and laptops have existed for a long time Your missing the big difference between this and a laptop. Laptop manufacturers can't sell their products at a loss. Microsoft and sony can sell their consoles at a significant loss because they force people into their software ecosystems and guarantee profit from their software services. Laptop manufacturers not only have to make sure they're making a profit on the raw materials, but also have to pay licensing fees to Microsoft for Windows. This means Valve can hit price to performance targets that literally no one else could ever compete with. Every sale of a Steam computer translates into more Steam game sales just like every sale of an Xbox translates into Xbox games sales. Yet previously Steam machines weren't viable because of the state of proton. But if proton can achieve 100% game compatibility Valve can sell a lineup of hardware at a significant loss and out compete laptop manufacturers.
>>367522 (check'd) I don't see myself picking one up unless it goes down to $299 or so, but I can see myself running through Doom wads, PSX games, and watching movies/series. Being able to plug this in on a train, popping a kickstand, and pulling out a bluetooth controller sounds like a comfy way to pass the time, and I don't blame people for getting hyped.
>>367524 >This means Valve can hit price to performance targets that literally no one else could ever compete with. I guess you do have a point there. Sadly we will just have to wait and see how things will turn out. I remain skeptical, but I have no ill will towards Valve and their portable PC. >>367526 >running through Doom wads, PSX games, and watching movies/series If that's all you want, you can buy a cheap tablet with a bluetooth controller. My 2012 smartphone could emulate PSX and even some DS games quite well, so I have no doubt a 2020 tablet can do the same thing. You can even buy it second hand.
>>367548 >If that's all you want, you can buy a cheap tablet with a bluetooth controller. My 2012 smartphone could emulate PSX and even some DS games quite well, so I have no doubt a 2020 tablet can do the same thing. You can even buy it second hand. Dealing with ARM based operating systems is hell on earth. That is reason enough to go out of your way to get a proper x86 tablet and have the confidence that every piece of software will just work the way it already did on your computer.
>>367512 What game had some recent news about it about how pirated copies run much better because either they aren't using Denuvo or the publisher didn't bother doing optimizations that pirates did? RE8? I'd like more of that yeah. Even though it should have been obvious when Bethesda accidentally shipped the DRM free copy of Doom Eternal and it ran and loaded better than the drm copy.
>>367560 Obvious to normalfags, I mean. I also hope that Automata losing denuvo would also be another obvious indicator for it.
>>367560 It was RE8 yes. Every time you engaged in combat the frames would dip hard even on high end hardware, but the cracked version of the game had no such issue.
>>367167 It was just the one guy Ahmed. >>367363 >HW side Gabe said there was a NVME drive slot in the base model as well. But who knows how hard it will be to actually get in there. >SW side Now this is just stupid. It's clear that the majority of people I share a board with have no reading comprehension or attention span. Read the thread nigger, you can literally install whatever distro of Linux or Windows you fucking want. You can emulate whatever you want because it's not a walled garden. >>367454 >I doubt you can play FPS games on it, as I doubt the trackpad is a good substitute for a mouse. If fags will play FPS games on consoles and handhelds then they will do it on this whether they even use the trackpad or not. It will be for Singleplayer games though like how they kept showing off Doom Eternal as obviously you'd be at a disadvantage against mouse players. The gyro will actually make this pretty comfy too if my experience with Gyro shooters is anything to go by. >>367455 >it doesn't have nintendo games Wait until they realize that this thing is powerful enough to run everything from the pre-Switch Nintendo library. Then the salt will really flow.
>>367167 I don't understand why so many people are obsessed with "physical" editions and think that Steam somehow killed them. Physical copies still had DRM, with the added inconvenience of being vulnerable to damage, loss, and degredation from disk rot. Not only that, but the increasing size of games has meant physical releases are just codes on a disk anyways even on console. Games were going to go digital regardless of Steam's existence. I would argue that digital is better long-term anyways. With digital files you can more easily copy, modify, and redistribute. I'd take my DRM-free GOG installers over a disk any day.
>>367559 This. Installing Linux shit on ARM is fucking bullshit. Completely killed loading Linux on my Chromebook where my previous Chromebook could run whatever Linux ports Steam had at the time.
>>364770 Not a chance. My desktop pc can't emulate Switch worth a damn (though it can wii u) and it has higher specs than that.
>>367566 >NVME slot But then that would sacrifice portability and/or battery life, battery's probably the big issue here. >SW Anon I'm sorry but I just do not buy that it will not be heavily restricted in one way or another. >>367572 It'll eventually get there anon, we'll eventually get to emulate Astral Chain well.
>>367574 >Anon I'm sorry but I just do not buy that it will not be heavily restricted in one way or another. It's literally running Arch with KDE Plasma, that is what I'm running on my computer right now. Gabe in multiple emails has said it's just a computer and you can install whatever operating system you want. The marketing material explicitly states that you can install whatever operating system you want. The Steam machines of old operated in the same exact way, they were just running debian instead. The marketing material images show running htop on the devices screen and a basic KDE Plasma desktop on the other screen. You can "not buy" that it won't be some weird locked down system, but there is zero evidence that it would be locked down.
>>367574 >Anon I'm sorry but I just do not buy that it will not be heavily restricted in one way or another. Valve's entire marketing of the Deck so far has been centered around the complete openness of the platform. There's no way they'd ever walk back on such a huge promise, they'd instantly get called out on it.
>>367574 >But then that would sacrifice portability and/or battery life, battery's probably the big issue here. But if you read the thread you nigger you would find that supposedly all models run the same battery life of 2-8 hours, with two of the models featuring SSD's by default. The base $399 model doesn't have an NVME drive but allegedly has a slot for one. >Anon I'm sorry but I just do not buy that it will not be heavily restricted in one way or another. They said you could install Windows or other distros of Linux, unless they are absolutely full of shit and we have no reason to believe so since Steam Machines could also run other OS and software, I'd say it's fine. Not to mention piracy and emulation would be even easier than the PSP. I don't know how well these things are actually going to perform and won't until they actually begin to spread around to hardware reviewers, but that's the information we have to work with.
>>367176 MY MOTHER IS DEAD
>>367592 That's even better.
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>>365676 >>365679 That Nick game just looks like a shitty Chink clone of Smash. It's shameless.
>>367575 >>367576 >>367577 Fair enough. I'll eat those words if it does turn out to be open as advertised.
>>367593 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >>367594 Slap city was alright, if they manage to make a game even better than that then I'll be very interested.
>>367568 >I would argue that digital is better long-term anyways. With digital files you can more easily copy, modify, and redistribute. I'd take my DRM-free GOG installers over a disk any day. Digital files literally still exist on physical media. You could just as well make an .iso out of a disk and be done with it, excepting DRM hassles.
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>>367469 >I wonder if Epic Games/Tencent will also release their own portable device to compete with Valve. Considering that Epic is just a front for Tencent to weaken Valve and make it easier for WeGames to wedge itself into the market outside of China in a few years time - I doubt it. They don't even put much time or money into giving their own storefront basic features because it'd be a waste of money for something that was always planned to be disposable. Why do you think nobody is concerned about them giving out so many "free" games? Because you'll be locked out of them in a few years. Devs get paid once in FortNite bucks for giving the game out - and then get the rest of their cash in a few years when you have to buy it over again. Epic loses tons of cash in the deal, but China will just manipulate the currency a bit to have all the money they need to burn on the project. Meanwhile, they've also been hard at work trying to break down walled gardens - which overall is a good thing, but they don't give a damn about the market. They're just using Epic as a sledgehammer to break down the gates of Apple, Sony, and Microsoft so that they can eventually put their shitty chink stores on those platforms.
>>365679 >>366726 Valve has fucking Monobeno on Steam.
>>367594 >>367596 What would take a playerbase shift from Smash Ultimate? I've never played it but it seems that most of the discourse on it is how dogshit the netcode is and whatever nuclear asshurt radiation has occurred from whomever's the most recent character added. I know characters are more than functions and all but you'd think someone would try something new and it would be successful.
>>367616 I's apparently true https://archive.is/NPQn2 I'm not into VNs, do you just see lolis in panties or is it porn?
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>>367616 Technically distributing that commercially in Canada is illegal.
>>367618 It's hardcore loli breeding by the same developer that made Maitetsu.
>>367634 Apprently, the reason it's still on steam is probably because it's a censored version and you need to patch it.
>>365943 >Cause debian sucks why? what do you have against debian?
>>367643 Outdated software repos
>>367645 this is true, but man is it stable. if my system goes to shit I know goddamn well it's my fault
>>367647 Stable just means unchanging, which means unchanging bugs. Steam for example in debian based distro repos has a lot of bugs that are already fixed if you just installed it from the .deb file from Steam's site. For the average user finding weird bugs in their software that have already been solved but haven't been pushed to their computer for the last 8 months is going to be perceived as quite a bit more "unstable" than the alternative.
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>>367574 >It'll eventually get there anon, we'll eventually get to emulate Astral Chain well. Maybe Platinum can release it and Bayonetta 3 later on PC like they have with W101. Let me dream.
>>367626 fuck the Canadians
>NVIDIA shows off RTX and DLSS on Arm using Arch Linux, DLSS SDK adds full Linux support And so it begins, the actual year of the linux desktop. www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/nvidia-shows-off-rtx-and-dlss-on-arm-using-arch-linux
>Valve's own CEG DRM breaks games over proton Hasn't been fixed for 3 years. Reminder that for every cool thing Valve does there's at least another completely fucking brain dead retarded thing lurking behind it. Valve claims to be looking to fix 3rd party DRM for the Steam Deck but the real question is will they fix their shitty first party DRM? https://archive.is/Z7jdJ
>Valve announce steamdeck >8chan /v/ gets flooded with wojak spam and memes directly from (((Reddit))) >/v/ early was getting gore spam Valve fanboys are the Sonyniggers of PC gaming.
<<367697 You've made this post in like 3 different threads already dude.
>>367595 The only potential problem is drivers. Between the unique APU and the controls, you can definitely install windows, but will it still be able to play games well and without extra peripherals if you do? They WILL let you install another OS, there is absolutely no doubt, but that doesn't mean they have to support that other OS.
>>367703 The GPU drivers will probably work fine since it's on a standard architecture. I'd be surprised if it didn't work fine out of the box with Windows or with minor tweaks, but I'd be lying if I said it wouldn't be funny to see Windows faggots get cucked.
>>367720 The gpu will probably work, but might lose some optimization. The controls though. If they work at all it will only be through steam or third party drivers, and if Valve builds support into the OS they won't be bothering with doing it in Steam. Non-Xbox controllers are always a huge mess on Windows.
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>>367454 >Honestly I am not seeing all that much of a shitshow But then there's those other handheld pcs that got crowdfunded awhile back. Valve just swoops in out of nowhere with $399 starting price. they've gotten real quiet since the announcement.
>>367562 The fact Capcom said they were investigating that makes me wonder if they even knew about Denuvo's performance hit
>>367658 >Stable just means unchanging, which means unchanging bug what? just fix them, what do you mean? >Steam for example in debian based distro repos has a lot of bugs that are already fixed not really. steam has a selfupdater. it's normal to update if any are available by any means >For the average user finding weird bugs in their software that have already been solved but haven't been pushed to their computer for the last 8 months is going to be perceived as quite a bit more "unstable" than the alternative. what are you talking about? just fix your issues and be done with it. why is fixing known issues considered "unstable"?
>>367890 >what? just fix them, what do you mean? Stable means unchanging, meaning bug fixes don't get fixed in a timely manner unless they're security vulnerabilities. That's the entire point of Debian, that your applications aren't constantly updating. >not really. steam has a selfupdater. it's normal to update if any are available by any means I'm not sure how the self-updater works exactly, but I know that I had an older version of Steam that had some version specific bugs. And the only way to fix it was to use their .deb installer. >what are you talking about? just fix your issues and be done with it. why is fixing known issues considered "unstable"? Do you know what debian even is? You're asking me questions that are so fundamental I can't help but wonder why you're asking them at all if you know this little about how Linux distributions work.
>>367358 Why not both? Fit dick girls, which probably would be the norm if they existed in the real world since the the high testosterone produced by their big balls would affect their body mass and make easier for them to develop muscles. >>367398 >>367402 So nips like it (mostly), but will nip companies pay attention to it? >>367455 >Nintendo fans trying their damnedest to act like they aren't mad and say that "It doesn't have Nintendo games" They can't use that as an argument. Similar devices like the GDP Win 3 can run GC/Wii games and lower with somewhat worse specs than the Deck (https://invidious.kavin.rocks/watch?v=zOSEsQgdPm4), and it's probable that the Deck can become successful enough to attract people who decide to optimize CEMU and Yuzu to play Wii U and Switch games. >>367617 >What would take a playerbase shift from Smash Ultimate? Project M/Plus being able to be played in tournaments. Nintendo was so mad at how a fan mod for Brawl was stealing the spotlight from Smash 4 that threatened tournament organizers with forbidding them from playing any Smash game if they didn't ban Project M instead, and even told Twitch to ban PM's streams (Twitch blocked the tag and prevented users from monetize videos of it). >>367697 >8chan /v/ gets flooded with wojak spam and memes directly from (((Reddit))) >/v/ early was getting gore spam Blame the GG thread for that. Some autistic fight happened there weeks ago and a terminally ill nigger has been spamming it (and sometimes the entire catalog) with wojaks and similar garbage almost every day.
>>367647 In the past this was a good tradeoff but nowadays the pace of software development has increased and the debian's repos are worse than ever at keeping up. It's fine for using for a server you want to ignore 99% of the time but if you want a workstation distro that's broadly stable/non-rolling release but pretty much cutting edge just use Fedora.
>>367985 >Why not both? Fit dick girls BECAUSE WE NEVER ASKED FOR DICKS, YOU HUMANIZED PENIS PUMP.
>>367918 >Do you know what debian even is? I've been using it for years. that's why most of what you're saying doesn't make sense. >Stable means unchanging, meaning bug fixes don't get fixed in a timely manner unless they're security vulnerabilities what is buster-updates. also nobody is forcing you to only use default repos. I have 24 repos for various shit and have never had any issues. you really need better arguments. "debian is unstable because it never changes" is pretty retarded. >>368001 >nowadays the pace of software development has increased and the debian's repos are worse than ever at keeping up yeah they are slow to update, but see my point about other repos. >just use Fedora I used it for 6 months a long while back. there was a joke calling fedora "red hats beta test". I never believed it until I started running in to those bugs. like the wifi driver killing the system if you're connected to any AP for more than 4h. just the other day I span up 6 fedora33 VMs to play around with kubernetes. after a shitload of wasted time I found out that it has a massive cgroups issue that is still not fixed which effectively blocks you from running needed services. I wouldn't recommend fedora to anyone
come back boy
>>368150 >well if you don't use the stable repos and use the rolling release ones you get up to date software Cool, I'm pointing out that to the average user that isn't going to understand how to micro manage their software repos an arch based distribution would appear to them as an end user as a better desktop linux experience. Stable repos in 2021 cause more headache to new users than they solve by being unchanging. I'm not calling debian unstable. I'm saying that it ships with outdated software and that the average user is going to get confused when they expect different functionality from their software because it was on a newer version when they were using Windows. I'm saying that stability doesn't mean what most people think it means. Stability to normalfags is their shit just working as expected.
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Just wanna remind you all that Valve has a history of releasing a new device or hardware and then immediately abandoning it, doing nothing to fix issues and leaving it up to third-party software if there's a software related issue. Examples are the Steam Controller and the Steamlink, SteamOS, the Steam Box. The Valve Index is one of the most advanced VR HMDs on the market, but it's also one of the most cheaply made and a lot of users have to enact repairs themselves because Valve doesn't provide any end-user support. The Steam Deck will be pumped out, and then .. if you want to get it serviced, you better learn to solder or find someone who will do it for you.
>>368182 Except all of those devices still work fine so it's not really the FUD people make it sound like. >Valve stopped selling and developing these niche devices that still work perfectly fine for everyone that uses them
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>>368182 I can already picture the Steam Forums getting flooded with angry complaints from Windows-only normalfags who can't figure basic shit out. I highly doubt their claims that Proton can run all their library effortlessly unless they sinked some serious money onto it preparing for the Deck's release. That or they already expect everyone to switch over to Windows day-one. Which I don't know how it will even work regarding specific drivers
>>367765 >China >Hong Kong I'll stick with Valve. It may be a shitshow, but at least it'll be an American shitshow.
>>368182 >SteamOS The Steam Deck is literally running what they call SteamOS 3.0
>>368189 Supposedly you can install Windows onto the Steam Deck.
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>>368182 While I agree to an extent, those products Valve was putting out where also Retardedly Niche. I'v Heard there are people who love the Steam Controller, but realistically who the fuck is actually going to buy it when every game is tailored to the Xbox 360's controller. Who the fuck would buy a Steam Box, when they can just get a console, or Builds a PC themselves? the Index might be neat, but it's also allot of fucking money to put down for something that isn't industry standard yet. They all seem like Ideas that they were spit balling, but then actually put some money into to make it into a product to see what would happen. Hell Steam Link/Remote play is actually pretty dope, since it works with any game that is labeled to have Local Mutiplayer. It works with shit like Lego Star Wars from 2009, without any real updates to the game itself. But again these were all Niche as hell ideas, for PC Gaming. but the Steam Deck is Actually something people want, and it's clear they put in way more thought into this thing as the culmination of all of these previous efforts. Or at least it seems that way to me. If I get one and it's actually a piece of shit, Then I rightfully deserve to get fucked in the ass for buying into the hype, and while I'd be able to criticize Valve if the thing doesn't fucking work, I can't be able to complain too much when I'm the one who decided to waste my money on something that's possibly over promising what it can't deliver. But that's another interesting thing, about the $5 Reservation system. Everyone will be receiving there own Steam Decks at different times, Anyone who gets one in december are going to be the ones doing the reviewing of the product, anyone who has their Reservation set to after that date can cancel their order before Really shelling out the cash. It's a low risk high reward kind of thing Valve has done for people here.
>>368198 >But again these were all Niche as hell ideas Someone have to be the one to push the hobby forward
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>turning this cancerous thread into a cyclical might as well just announce that you're officially partnering with Valve to rape this board, Mark. Its like you've failed to notice the amount of cuckchanners and cancer that's dropping the board quality and turning entire threads into shitfests.
>>368202 >this butthurt about a computer form factor Microsoft shills really going into overdrive today
>>368203 >conflating being anti-(((Steam))) with somwhow being pro-microsoft might as well just call me an epic games shill while you're at it, cuckchanner thanks for further proving that this thread deserves to die
>>368202 <How dare people discuss videogame related hardware in MY videogame board! <They even made it cyclical so it does not shit the board with yet another thread I hate! Hot damn you are stupid
>>368205 You have a fundamental lack of understanding when it comes to how these devices and markets work. Buying this device and refusing to use (((Steam))) on it costs Valve money. These are very likely being sold at cost or at a loss. Seeing this hardware for what it is, which is good, does not mean you're supporting Steam or Valve. Just like buying a GPU from nvidia or AMD doesn't mean you're supporting their incompetent decisions. Your inability to divorce your emotions from the equation blinds you to the reality that you can both fuck over Valve and get good hardware in the same breath. I chose to believe that you were a microsoft shill rather than accuse you of being that incompetent because it seemed nicer at the moment.
>>368189 >I highly doubt their claims that Proton can run all their library effortlessly unless they sinked some serious money onto it preparing for the Deck's release. Obviously not all. Can't do that without being a full Windows installation. But I'm sure most will run fine. Proton is just a middleware for wine, configuration stuff for wine and the games and DXVK.
>>367469 >Valve also marketed the Steam PCs and those were mostly a failure The PC market is already full of people who are more advanced at technical stuff and it was just prebuilds with SteamOS not even made by Valve. So for buyers it was only a choice of preinstalled operating system.
>>368211 Most modern multiplayer games aren't going to work, primarily because of anti-cheat. This probably won't bother anyone on this board but it sure as shit isn't going to look good for Valve. I've heard a rumor that they're trying to get EAC and Battleye to work by release but it smells like bullshit to me, and I was following the development of those fixes quite closely until a few months ago. Reason that I stopped paying attention is that the principal developer fucked off to work on other compatibility issues (namely, Media Foundations).
>>368217 Oh yeah, another thing (although this is purely the fault of the game devs and not Valve) is that some games which have native Linux clients can't cross-play with Windows. Looking at you, Total Warhammer.
>>368217 >Most modern multiplayer games aren't going to work, primarily because of anti-cheat. Light and serverside anticheat might still work and anticheat of current games has source code and thus can be ported. Not that it will be ported but it's not hard. >>368218 >native Linux clients can't cross-play with Windows How many pajeets do they have? >>368221 I just feel sorry for you. Your children will have no future here.
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Despite all the doom and gloom, this shit has gotten more attention more attention than either VR or Steamboxes ever got funnily enough. I guess all that these portable PC thingies needed were marketing and a unified brand. Wonder how cancerous Valve and the market will become if it becomes popular.
>>368217 They did claim they want to get almost every single game working over proton, including shitty games with malware anti-cheat. Whether or not they can do that will be a pretty big deal. It's a massive claim that needs to be backed up by actually following through. Getting the entire catalog of Steam games working over proton would be pretty revolutionary for more than just this device.
>>368221 Linus?
>>368222 >Light and serverside anticheat might still work It would but anti-cheat is being outsourced by almost all modern game devs. And the faggots they're outsourcing it to are in an arms race to the highest possible application privileges because everyone knows that all the hackers nowadays install hacked Windows kernels so they can win at Counter-Strike. >How many pajeets do they have? That's so insensitive anon. They're obviously all filthy pakis because Creative Assembly is British. >>368224 The extra push for Linux compatibility is easily the best thing that will come out of this product.
>>368173 >I'm not calling debian unstable good. fair enough for the other points. I, as a debian user, just want to point out that it's really not so bad as people think.
>>368100 Too bad. >>368202 >the amount of cuckchanners and cancer that's dropping the board quality Can you point the "cuckchanners" in this thread?
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>>368529 If you like it so much, why don't you go and post there?
>>368529 Bullshit. Taking one brief look at cuck/tg/'s catalogue made me reach for a paper bag. I shudder at the thought of visiting any of the other "boards" on cuckchannel.
>>368529 That's an awfully daring claim to make, friend. How would you know? I agree that some boards on 4chan can have posting of a higher quality. After 8chan went down many of the anons who'd frequent it returned to 4chan or elsewhere, and as a result the quality of posting on 4chan increased marginally. If you mean the larger boards, like /v/, /co/, /b/, etc. then you're absolutely wrong, because there's still chock full of one-liner, wojack-ridden threads and replies. I believe a certain population is necessary for board quality to be consistent, and early 8chan hit the sweet spot for that: a fraction of 4chan's insurmountable mountain of normalfags, newfags, and redditors, but still large enough to draw a varied userbase concerned with quality and discussion. 4chan will forever be too big for its own good, and chase whatever quality posting it has present out in favor of widespread appeal and political correctness, as has happened before and continues to happen now.
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>>368529 I know it's bait but I'll still respond by saying that highly depends on where you are. For small hobby boards, maybe? They tend to about as slow as the webring is anyway. For /v/? Absolutely not, it has its moments like Shazamposting but 4/v/ is almost entirely teenagers from Twitter trying to troll each other. Any decent semi-regular thread gets thrown to /vg/ to slowly die. Except for Smash because the jannies are huge fucking Smashfag Nintendrones. The last time 4/v/ got a truly great thread, the snootgame threads, they got kicked out of the board because of angry janny ranting about them being a "general", the same faggot who allows the constant Smash threads because (his actual words) "Smash Bros is a cultural phenomenon". This fucker actually removed a video game thread that /v/ made from /v/. Even 4/v/'s best janny is worse than Mark, the cakejew isn't actually that bad compared to almost any janny on a big 4cuck board.
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An interesting development https://web.archive.org/web/20210720201528/https://www.ign.com/articles/steam-deck-might-bring-ubisoft-back-steam If you don't know and why would you, you'd have to be playing Ubishit Ubisoft has had their games off of Steam for awhile now. First on their shitty home grown service Uplay and later on the Epic Games Store. >After a pointed departure from Steam releases in recent years, Ubisoft might be reconsidering the platform thanks to Valve's recent new handheld announcement: the Steam Deck. In its Q1 earnings call today, Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot responded to an investor question about his thoughts on the Steam Deck by suggesting it might spark future Ubisoft game releases on the platform: >"We're happy to see Steam Deck coming to the industry, it shows that it continues a flow of very innovative new hardware coming to the market," he said. "So we will look and see how big it becomes, but if it's big we will be able to put our games on it." >Ubisoft does already have a fairly robust library of games on Steam, but its releases have tapered off in recent years as it partnered with the Epic Games Store on titles such as The Division 2 and several subsequent games in 2019. At the time, Guillemot said this was actually a decision to direct customers to its own Ubisoft store, while also taking advantage of the "better terms" offered by the Epic Games Store — which only takes a 12% cut of sales from publishers, compared to Steam's 20% - 30% depending on how well a game sells. >Since the Steam Deck is effectively a handheld gaming PC, all Ubisoft's existing Steam catalog would already be available on the device when it launches starting later this year. It's also worth pointing out that Valve has confirmed the Steam Deck will be able to run the Epic Games Store and other PC storefronts, so all this could just mean that Ubisoft continues business as usual. However, Guillemot's statement may indicate a shifting tide for future releases if the Steam Deck is successful enough. That's the entire article. I'm not sure about Yves Guillemot's reasoning here or why the Deck being a success would make him want to move Ubisoft games back on Steam, but it's interesting to see it already making waves around the industry.
What did >>368529 say that got multiple replies? >>368551 >if it's big enough For U(bisoft). Shitpost aside, how is Ubilol on non-Microshaft OS? Do they port games to Linux and/or macOS, or are they so incompetent/Jewish that the games can't even run with WINE?
>>368562 Don't all Ubisoft games, even on steam, require you to have U-play on as well?
>>368563 No idea, I don't play their games.
>>368563 Yes they do, they require you to log into Uplay with a separate Uplay account to play a game you purchased through Steam alone.
>>368551 Looks like Ubisoft's games will only be slightly less bloated than usual. Not that their games can get any better at this point. >>368562 >What did >>368529 say that got multiple replies? Typo and all. > 4chan is unironically better in posting quality then this place Bait, like >>368538 said.
>>368562 I'm not sure but I don't see why their games would be any different to the average AAA game in terms of WINE compatibility. >>368563 >>368572 They used to require Uplay when it was still a thing, but I think they got rid of Uplay awhile ago.
>>368572 >>368575 I also hear EA does that with Origin too.
>>368577 >>368575 EA and Ubisoft both now have "thin" clients for Origin and UPlay respectively, that don't do all the extra stuff like the store and friends lists and shit, but just satisfy the needs of the game's built-in DRM.
>>368575 Is the Uplay launcher not an extremely obvious source of pain to you? Any external launcher or client causes extra problems for WINE compatibility. There's a whole host of things that need to be done to accommodate Blizzard's launcher, for example.
I gotta admit, I'm kinda hoping that Valve allows developers to program different uses for the trackpads, back buttons and analog sticks, rather than just being shortcuts. Maybe we can have some cool gameplay implementations like dodging in God Hand or slicing fruit ninja style in MGR.
>>368818 >I'm kinda hoping that Valve allows developers to program different uses for the trackpads, back buttons and analog sticks That's just a small API away from being reality, it's up to Valve to make said API. It will probably release with the console or the devbuilds of the console.
>>368829 Well, if playing through steam, it will probably come working out of the box. But if a game developer want to do something fancy with those extra buttons and trackpads, he will need an API to access the input data.
>>368832 Don't forget the Steam Deck is also supposed to have gyro. There's going to be at least one weird indie person that uses that somehow.
>>368838 I wanna play a weird game about rubbing boobs.
>>368864 I don't think waving a giant tablet shaped object around is going to fulfill that desire anon.
>>368911 This. But the Switch version of Omega Labyrinth does support the touch screen for its boob related minigames.
>>364199 The gamegear had amazing ergonomics, you must have never held one.
>>368864 Didn't the Vita have a game exactly like that?
>>368940 The Vita has a lot of games where you touch girls, but I would have said Senran Reflections.
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>>368937 >The gamegear had amazing ergonomics, you must have never held one. The GameGear's ergonomics were fine until you plugged in that atrocious battery dildo. The cord wasn't long enough to reach to your belt where it you were supposed to clip it, and the fucking cord came out of the top, meaning you were in a constant state of tug-of-war with a dangling anchor. It was definitely more comfortable to use than the Nomad - which literally just was a brick with a screen and a six button pad grafted on. That had it's own problems with a secondary battery brick that clipped onto the back side of it rather than housing them internally.
>>368937 I had one (used) that my parents got me back in 2002 when I was 6, despite the fact that I had asked for a GBA. It was horrible for child hands. I sold it last year for 50 bucks to some old fatso ho wantes to reminisce about his childhood
>>368940 yes, but I wanna see it on steam deck.
>>368940 Who the fuck owned a vita
>>368968 Hackers.
>>368968 weebs
>>368971 >>368970 Sounds dangerous, glad I stuck to my 3DS.
>>368972 Oh you.
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>>368193 Half the reason I'm even anticipating this is that it's about time the Americans got onto the market, and competently so as a matter of fact. Chinks should never get away with bilking the Amerifats out of $800 for integrated graphics. >>368189 I look forward to bullying those retards while also giving them sage advice kek Considering a lot of people in this thread have never used clients like FreeTube or YT-dl + mpv to watch Jewtube and actually use the default app like good goys, it might be a great opportunity to get normalfags hooked on rudimentary "hacker shit" like owning their own e-mail and chat servers, storing files on ext2/ext4, having DNS filtering block out advertising AIDS, and contributing to filesharing. >>367568 It makes archiving way easier. Normalfags who bought into the <streaming meme, for example, have to watch gutted versions of their shitty Office show or whatever because the providers decide they want to change it. Go on, try finding the original Baldur's Gates before Beamdog got to them, it's way harder than if you owned the original disks. >>367501 Go look at cuck/v/. God they are fucking retards. >>366688 >>366810 >>368223 Worst case scenario is that the Steam Deck gets Linux popular but also trashes it and forces power users to migrate to obscure microkernels due to normalcattle wanting to be shot between the eyes so badly and begging to own nothing to be happy. I already bristle at the retards wanting rootkits on Linux, I like the device because it shuts that nonsense out. >>366895 You can, but there are other programs like Krita and Kdenlive that do the same while being free. And I just do all of my video encoding and editing with command line ffmpeg, because that's what video editors amount to. >>367415 Normalniggers when I brought up the SteamPal rumors >lmao I don't see why you're interested in something that does not exist, lol it will never run gaems at 60fps even if it did Normalniggers now >Fucking stop talking about this other topic HOW DO I GET THE STEAM DECK It reminds me of the dipshits who were harassing people for not wearing masks now pretending that individuals who still do it are insane. Normalfags really are mentally ill. >>367455 >I legitimately caused a console war with Nintendo fans trying their damnedest to act like they aren't mad I don't even get how normalniggers only like memes that have a shitton of Impact-font text overlaid some corporate media like a Ben "If It's a Jew Send Him Up the Flue" Garrison political cartoon. I just don't understand the psychology. >>367517 Video compression has advanced very far today and it's criminal how underused the technology is. Blame Hiroyukichan for spreading it to normalfags that webms and mp4s have to be less than 4MB and soundless. Attached related. >>367526 I personally want to run some RPGMaker games that are advanced enough to be mistaken for handheld titles. I find if I map the controls correctly I would imagine it to be a sublime experience. >>367575 That reminds me, what will the BIOS be like? It's guaranteed users would want to undervolt/overvolt day one.
>>368977 > but also trashes it and forces power users to migrate to obscure microkernels due to normalcattle wanting to be shot between the eyes so badly and begging to own nothing to be happy as much as it would be nice to have a decent exodus of linux users to *bsd (which i know doesn't use a microkernel) or something else, this will probably just bolster total linux users and make the total number of retards around it larger
>>368977 >Chinks should never get away with bilking the Amerifats out of $800 for integrated graphics. Pretty sure the AMD hardware they're using is still manufactured in China. The price drop comes from Valve having their own "ecosystem" to ensnare the customer in, so they can afford to sell at a loss like most consoles. The bilking isn't coming directly from China at least.
>>368977 >I already bristle at the retards wanting rootkits on Linux, I like the device because it shuts that nonsense out Were you one of those idiots that fell for the "they added rootkits" tardism? Such a thing never happened. What they did add was syscall user dispatch which is a simple but apparently not simple enough way of describing the hand off of system level api calls back to userspace or specifically back to the parent process that sent it. Which os a far cry from a piece of malware that has root level permissions. Only techlits who didn't understand shit was screetching at that. Not because they disliked it, but in a desperate attempt to defame any form of progress on linux development.
>>368977 God I know it's been half a year but what fucking moron at CDPR animated that sleeping animation
>>368972 You're missing out
>>369230 >not sleeping with half your body floating off the side of your bed
>>368977 >GTX 1050Ti Is this the GPU of the Steam Deck? I am not impressed.
>>369935 For a mobile device that's 400 bucks? It's not a bad deal.
>>369955 What GPU is needed for stable 60 FPS for that resolution?
>>369958 Using Last Epoch as my benchmark it struggles to hit 60FPS on anything above 720p on a 960. But this game is also horribly optimized. Considering the 960 is only roughly 10% faster than the 1050ti anything in that range is probably fine for 720p. I play plenty of games at 1080 and even 1440 on the 960 and they run mostly alright as long as they are older titles. So an operating system that is optimized and curated for specific hardware could probably get some decent performance. Last Epoch is one of them games like Wolcen that isn't really comparable to even things like The Witcher 3 since they're ARPG's that aim towards bleeding edge graphics and ignore any effort into being well optimized and sort of just expect the player to have a decent PC.
Actually a decent video showing potential size comparisons to the Steam Deck and how it feels to hold. That is if this guys 3D print is actually accurate.
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>>370032 This guy looks like he's ready to snap.
>>370032 To be fair it looks lot more practical in hand than from the press bullshots. The B button off to the corner is gonna be the major concern, when using triggers puts them so close. Trackpads are non-issue, i don't see it being used other than general navigation.
>>370032 >people were complaining about the joysticks and not the dpad placement
>>370167 Just bind B to one of the buttons on the back, problem solved.
>>370304 Not a bad idea, but your muscle memory is going to instinctively move to the b button when you see it on a button prompt in-game, at least for a while.
>>364164 Is Valve seriously gonna compete with Nintendo with the Steam Deck? I really don't see the point of owning the Deck when Valve has a history of giving very little support of their products like the Steam Controller and the Steam Machine. If people want to buy the Deck just for emulation, might as well just buy a Nintendo Switch and put Retroarch into it.
>>370641 >Might aswell put retro arch on switch. Banned, enjoy the lawsuit. T. Nintendo
>>370768 Also SD card corruptions left and right.
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Third Fourth time's the charm >>370641 >Is Valve seriously gonna compete with Nintendo with the Steam Deck? Valve has wanted to make their own pseudo console since before the Switch even released, it probably had an influence but I don't understand all the people saying it's trying to be a competitor. >I really don't see the point of owning the Deck I thought the same thing at first but the way I see it, it's a fully functional mid-tier gaming PC for $399. That's not something you see everyday. A lot of people have toasters which can barely run Portal, so it's an attractive upgrade. That's not mentioning the global chip shortage and sky high GPU prices at the moment.
>>368977 Now do monster hunter world PLS
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>>370792 >SD card corruptions That still happens on the Shitch? I thought it was a 3DS thing.
>>371073 Yes, but more prevalent on EXFats.
>>371074 How do you fuck up a driver for a filesystem that's the de facto industry standard among mid-high capacity removable storage devices?
>>371073 I can personally confirm it was an issue on the PSVita too. I remember using sometimes the music app (a feature of the Vita is that you could have your personal music replacing the in-game music while leaving the SFX and voice sounds intact, although some publishers/developers wouldn't allow that sometimes) and the list of track songs could be easily corrupted even if the track themselves were okay. The blank icons in the livearea menu was also a common sign of data corruption on the system. Even had to replace a microSD for the adapter once but I suspect it was more the storage getting defective. Can't say anything about the Switch and I only have the system for a bit less than one year now. No drifting issues from the joycons either even after some 300 hours in-use I do recall reading the console only supports UHS-I cards, things like Sandisk Extreme cards can still work on it but there are zero speed gains so no point in paying premium for one of them.
>>371074 >Yes, but more prevalent on EXFats. Stop FAT shaming.
>>371073 >>371074 Maybe Valve has a special filesystem for SD cards?
>>371228 I imagine Valve will handle SD card formats much more robustly than Nintendo in the first place.
>>371228 it will probably be the standard gnu/linux ext4
>>371235 *Nix filesystems are alrewady pretty robust in handling storage devices hell for the last century that was literally all they had which made them server central I don't think valve would be able to outdo the entire server sector in making a usable filesystem.
>>371404 Great, even less to worry about then. Thanks.
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>>364164 I hope its decent but knowing Valves track record with its own boxes it will be shit. Also to be 100% honest its kinda already shit as there are plenty of handheld devices that allow you to play PC games and its not just limited to Valve stuff.
>>371228 There is f2fs, which is purpose build for flash disks. Be interesting to see just how long they would last with certain games that can get a little overboard with disk writes.
>>371757 Valve itself never made a Steam Box despite their pledge to, it ended up entirely being third parties who licensed the brand
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>>371757 >(1) >another nigger that didn't read the thread before posting >let alone external research You can install other stores on it and play their games assuming Proton can run it. Most handheld "PCs" are extremely expensive, underpowered, and have garbage ergonamics. You gonna buy a 1000 dollar "One" Gamer or something? Cause I doubt it. The worst thing to compare a potential dumpster fire from Valve is to one of these shitty expensive handheld PC things that are often chink garbage or use integrated graphics.
>>371806 Valve can not even make a a fucking new full entry of Half Life why should anyone have any fucking confidence in their Switch copy.
>>371880 HLA was a full HL game, though. It's longer than Opposing Force and Blue Shift combined. I know anons don't like VR but I don't understand why people undersell the game as just a tech demo or something.
>>371882 Because they havent played it, anon, it also doesnt help that it has too few weapons.
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>>371893 >it also doesnt help that it has too few weapons. Every Half-Life game after Blue Shift has had that problem, unfortunately.
>>371882 >Playing VR games. Anon I would but I only have one eyeball. Its still not Half Life 3.
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>>371880 A more apt comparison would be the hardware side of things Anon. I also don't see why people think this is made to compete with Nintendo. >>371922 >punished anon can't play VR
>>371922 >>371957 Can people with only one eye never experience VR?
>>372009 VR works fine for people with one eye, you just don't get the depth perception. Head-tracking still works fine though. Now if you're stuck in a neck/spinal brace - you're kind of fucked.
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>>371922 Sorry to hear that, but I do have good news in that case.
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>>371957 It really isn't a product Valve intends to have compete with Nintendo, but the announcement of the Steam Deck right after the Switch OLED disappointed people was too perfect to be a coincidence, the was a part of the market that wanted a more powerful "Switch Pro" and Valve has the alternative. Ultimatly this won't bite into Nintendo enough to make a difference but the "console war" comparisons people are making are free advertising and cost Valve Nothing while still letting them not be officially seen as Antagonistic. Valve gets the benefit of Sega's old school Nintendo Sucks Marketing, without actually doing it themselves.
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Steam Deck is aiming for games to run at 30 FPS: https://archive.md/AuvyS So much for that "Switch Pro" nonsense.
>>373188 >The idea of a target of 30hz (another term for frames-per-second, in this context) had led to some members of the community feeling anxious about the hardware's capabilities, assuming that Valve was pushing for games to run simply at 30FPS and no higher. However, in a recent tweet (below), Griffais reassured the community that the '30 FPS target' for the handheld console refers to "the floor of what we consider playable in our performance testing." Sounds like you should start reading the actual articles instead of clickbait headlines.
>>373190 >Sounds like you should start reading the actual articles instead of clickbait headlines. <the '30 FPS target' for the handheld console refers to "the floor of what we consider playable in our performance testing." People were praising this thing to high heaven for being a system that "Does what Nintendon't" by being able to play games at speeds that the Switch cannot. How does it still manage to hit the mark when what you're playing for is an overpriced Switch that doesn't do anything better?
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>>373194 >>373190 >>373194 It's a portable PC, so while 30fps seems to be the lowest poll a game has to jump over to be considered "good enough" you can still change settings so that it runs at 60. All in all if a game is only going to reach 30fps that on the Developers side if the game has shit optimization. If anything if this thing really takes off then two versions of game optimization could come out, one for 30fps with more bells and whistles, and one for 60fps. it would be pretty easy for Devs to make those two presets in their PC games. but if a game is stuck at 30 that probably just means it's a shit PC port. Like the Switch can't handle Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 without bumping down the resolution to keep the framerate high. It's a no brainer the PC version of Sigma 2 running on the Steam Deck is going to be better then That shit, just by virtue of it not being on the switch, even if these problem are mostly Koei Tecmo's fault for being shit at Optimization. Still there's no doubt people will buy the Steam Deck not understanding the limitations it has to has in order to have a lower price point comparable with the Switch.
Ah man I didn't intend to have that shit reddit spacing, but I didn't expand my text window enough
>>373194 Because it has Valve (TM) and Steam (TM) branding. Valve faggots are just the same as Applefags only they think since they don't like Apple in particular that makes them totally different.
>>373194 >People were praising this thing to high heaven for being a system that "Does what Nintendon't" by being able to play games at speeds that the Switch cannot. It will play games at above 30fps, it just likely won't play every single game at max settings at 60fps. The point of the 30fps target is to be able to play at least every single title available on steam at 30fps, meaning the newest AAA trash titles that are unoptimized bloatware. >How does it still manage to hit the mark when what you're playing for is an overpriced Switch that doesn't do anything better? So if the device doesn't run some random assassin's creed at a solid 60fps it's suddenly useless despite the fact that it will likely run the majority of games at 60fps perfectly fine? I'm struggling to find the will to engage with you when you're clearly being disingenuous. There are games on Steam that are unbelievably poorly optimized and run sub 60 fps even on insanely expensive hardware simply because they're made of spaghetti code. The minimum acceptable framerate being 30fps has no bearing on the quantity of games that are performing at 30fps. We know based on the hardware specs released that the GPU is probably roughly half the performance of a 1060, but is running on AMD's modern architecture so it could be more than half the performance. The 1060 is a 1080 60fps card, half the performance of that for half the resolution = 60fps for the majority of games on Steams market. I'm frankly not sure what you gain from FUD posting about the hardware when the facts don't match your narrative. You come off as really unhinged and goofy.
Staple framerate > choppy framerate every time I'd rather have 10 fps if it mean it was constant. Nobody can play a game when it spitballs between 30 and 60 all the time
>>373253 >I'd rather have 10 fps Trust me anon, you really do not. Honestly if I'd had to pick between jittery FPS or shit low stable fps I'd pick neither.
Now this is making me think of the idea that if a game really is a poorly optimized mess, a fanmade performance mod can be used to highlight the complete incompetence of AAA Devs even more so. before fanboy faggots could just blame you for not having a "good enough computer" but if a game in it's release state can't hit 60 on the Steam Deck, and then a easy to install fan mod can optimize the game, that's gonna really make them look bad since every Steam Deck will be the same, the excuse of "Not Good enough" doesn't work as much if there aren't variables.
>>373267 I don't know why you're implying people haven't already been able to identify poorly optimized games. When one game runs better while looking significantly better than another game that runs worse it's apparent that it's poorly optimized.
>>373271 There's also a recent example in RE8 where performance on pirated copies is utterly superior
>>373267 I've seen some people floating around the idea of "community graphics settings" for the Steam Deck, like how Steam already has community outsourced controller configurations. It sounds like a fascinating idea. That said the 30 FPS minimum target does have me wondering about how well the Steam Deck dock will do. I could use someone to explain to me how the Switch dock works, how it takes the under 1080p image in handheld mode and makes it 1080p, or at least tries to when docked.
>>373273 Modern games already default the settings to whatever hardware you have so I'm not sure why people keep bringing this up. This has been a standard for like a decade already. >That said the 30 FPS minimum target does have me wondering about how well the Steam Deck dock will do The dock does nothing except connect your machine to a monitor and peripherals. It's not going to improve performance. The reality is that unless the RDNA 2 architecture works some miracles this device likely won't be able to play games at 1080p with reasonable frame rates. You shouldn't be buying it expecting to be able to 1080p game on it before we see benchmarks. With the information we have now you should only expect 720p 60fps to be possible, and docking it to be viable for basic computer tasks and media consumption. It's possible that games with good FSR implementation could possibly be playable at 60fps, but that's relying on individual game developers to implement it into their game. Going into the future most games should utilize it. But I wouldn't bank on it being a major game changer. There are a lot of variables that could make things interesting, but there's too many unknowns right now.
>>372049 Is Valve even putting any effort at marketing this, or is just people doing it for them? So far the casuals don't know this product exists, just word of mouth and memes. >>373277 If this mildly succeeds it could incentivize devs to at have atleast low minimum specs required, or atleast optimize for the lowest "standard" hardware, though I doubt it.
>>373279 >If this mildly succeeds it could incentivize devs to at have atleast low minimum specs required, or atleast optimize for the lowest "standard" hardware, though I doubt it. Most people already don't have high end PC hardware. So it's not really like games aren't optimized properly because they don't need to be in order to address the hardware of the market. Games are optimized like shit because developers are lazy and fucking retarded. The one standard I could actually see from this is games having the option for low resolution textures instead of uncompressed 8K textures that are useless for 99.99999% of the people downloading your game.
>>373287 The funny thing about hardware that isn't locked down is that you don't need to care about whether or not it's financially successful like some degenerate brand loyalist. I can be the only person in the world who buys a steam dick and it will still do exactly what I want an x86 computer to do. You're projecting the mindset of someone who depends on walled garden software ecosystems onto a device that doesn't have any of those pitfalls and it's making you sound like a complete fucking retard.
>>373271 I'm not lying about anything I'm just point out using the Steam Deck as a bench mark would illustrate the point of how a game is unoptimized better to people who don't quite understand the complexities of pc gaming.
>>373350 I read "implying" as "lying"... but my point still stands, my mostly saying if the Steam Deck really is popular it can be used to get people in an uproar about shitting PC ports better, instead of people just assuming they have bad pc's.
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HELLO I grace this thread with my presence once again to ask how monster hunter world runs on machines emulating the steam deck specs.
>>373194 >How does it still manage to hit the mark when what you're playing for is an overpriced Switch that doesn't do anything better? If it plays games at 30 fps stable it "already runs games as speeds the switch cannot" Not to mention it will run GAMES the switch physically can not LMAO.
>>373353 Wouldn't that just result in developers writing off the Steam Deck as a "bad" system that is "impossible" to develop for, like they do with all Nintendo consoles?
>>373366 But are the devs really "developing" anything for the Steam Deck in particular? I figure it's just like releasing a game for the PC, the Deck's supposed to run it implicitly without any additional hassle. It's not like an entirely new architecture or system like a handheld console.
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>>373364 Fuckoff back to cuckchan and take your KC tier Facebook Frog with you
>>373366 Again The Steam Deck is not a console. It's just a laptop with a built in controller instead of a keyboard. If a game is unplayable on the Steam Deck that's going to be a result of it being a Shit optimized PC game. My point is if a game has shit optimization and a easy to install fan-patch makes the game optimization way better, using the Steam Deck as an example of this to highlight developer incompancy will be easier to explain to people who don't understand PC gaming. Normally there are tons of variables in the parts PC's use to be used as excuses to side step Shit Optimization, but Anyone is going to be able to go out and buy a Steam Deck, and they'll expect to be able to play Any Steam game on it. The fact the Steam Deck Simplifies the market, means that Market is going to be pissed when a game can't be played on the Steam Deck. If people can't play Call of Duty on the Base Steam Deck because Call of Duty is over 100 Fucking gigs, that's going to highlight Shit compression, if they can't play newer games at, "At minimum" 30fps 720p That's going to Highlight Shit Optimization. And when Pirates make repacks that Compress these games to fit on the Steam Deck, and Fans make Fan Patches to make the games run at 60fps, that's an really easy way to show off the incompetency of AAA developers and publishers. So either the devlopers are going to need to Optimized their fucking games, or they're going to piss off a chunk of the Market. Of course this is implying that the Steam Deck is a big enough success that it actually has a market worth giving a shit about.
>>373366 Except that if the game is on PC then it's on the Steam Deck. Devs don't need to make games for the Steam, Deck, it isn't a walled garden.
>>373287 >Steam Dick Vapor Penis haha
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Found this video of this Girl Translating Japanese Steam Deck comments for those interested in Japan's perspective. interestingly enough it seems like Japan was under the impression that the West had no interest in portable gaming. But I suppose that reaction could be due to the fact Xbox never tried making their own Portable system, so the Steam Deck would be the only big western comparison to the DS, or PSP in decades.
>>373383 Earlier an anon here noticed there were a lot of Japanese posts about the Deck on Twitter, though the comments she translated seemed more negative. I'm surprised they thought handhelds weren't popular in the West, the PSP was huge.
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>Valve makes new engine >doesn't call it the Steam Engine >Valve makes new portable PC >doesn't call it the Steam Train
>>373394 Yeah it's more the idea that the West/Xbox never tried competing with the portable market, that gives off that impression to Japan i'm sure. >>373396 Clever and fun names are unfortunately a bygone era it seems.
>>373273 >I could use someone to explain to me how the Switch dock works, how it takes the under 1080p image in handheld mode and makes it 1080p, or at least tries to when docked It's not rocket science. The Switch's chio is underclocked when running in portable mode in order to save battery and reduce heat. When you connect it to the dock the chip can run at normal speed since the console doesn't depend on batteries. It's like how laptops run in "power efficient" mode when unplugged and "max performance" mode when connected to an AC outlet. >>373364 Search "[game] GPD/Aya Neo" on jewtube. The GPD (specially the 3) and the Aya Neo are the closest things to the Deck in both design and specs.
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>>373277 >The dock does nothing except connect your machine to a monitor and peripherals. It's not going to improve performance. Why wouldn't it though? All the Switch Dock does is flip it from low power mode to standard power. When it's portable, they undervolt the fuck out of the system to save battery life. Considering the screens on these devices are only 720p, it makes sense to have it recognize when it has a non-depleting source of power hooked up and automatically flip from under-clock to standard (or overclock) modes. The idea of "Community Graphics Settings" is even better when you can have two different graphics profiles the Deck can swap between depending on if the game is started in docked or portable mode. And since the Steam Overlay runs over-top everything anyhow - you could have a generic popup message when transitioning while a game is running that not-all graphics option will change until the game is reset, and that you should probably do so soon in order to save battery life. That way developers don't have to do anything on their end to accommodate.
>>373416 Thanks for the explanation. I guess we won't know anything about that regarding the Steam Deck until release. The Digital Foundry people have been warning that the power consumption of the Steam Deck is too low for it to handle demanding games. Docking it might solve those issues then, but then you're using a PC.
>>373456 I suppose it's possible it will perform better when connected to power, but I feel like Valve would have mentioned something about that if that were the case. Regardless the dock itself isn't anything special I don't think since they said you could just buy third party USB hubs and get the same result. I guess the question becomes is the CPU and GPU locked so they can't be overclocked. If they're both unlocked we could see people constructing bizarre cooling dock contraptions so that when the device is docked it might run better.
>>373498 To me a big appeal of the Steam Deck I suppose would be using it like the Switch, not as my main gaming system, but as something I can take with me to someone else's home like to a party, hook it up to a big TV and go to town with a shit ton of Emulated mutiplayer games. My Uncle used to play Max Payne on the Original Xbox, so it would be pretty neat to not only show him Max Payne 1 in a handheld fashion, but also Max Payne 3 for compassions sake, and maybe whatever other OG Xbox games if OG Xbox Emulation makes decent progress. I like the idea of being able to show off games to people without having to shove them into my room and make them look at my PC. You could also find other people with Steam Decks, wait until they aren't looking, Install Jet Set Radio on their systems and Make every Custom Spray Paint say Nigger, and then leave without them knowing you did anything.
>>373416 >Search "[game] GPD/Aya Neo" on jewtube Thanks bro I'm assuming it's slightly less powerful but it does run it well. >>373372 Lovely schizo post.
>>373365 >If it plays games at 30 fps stable it "already runs games as speeds the switch cannot" Target actually means what the FPS will aim for but won't be able to maintain 100% due to hardware and optimization, there are many games that are "targeting 60fps" but dip below sometimes. And handhelds are certainly not the kind of platforms you want to get if a big AND stable framerate is your highest priority anyway, regardless it is a Switch or a Deck. >Not to mention it will run GAMES the switch physically can not LMAO. The same is true in reverse for PC not having games from the Switch (I'm speaking about third-parties too not just Nintendo's own stuff) or, in certain cases, getting worse versions compared on console. Personally I already a desktop and it would feel really redundant to have a Deck considering it can't play keyboard+mice games by default and there is no telling how compatibility well the games would work under the Linux OS.
>>373965 They said they are "targeting" 30fps as an fps floor. >The same is true in reverse for PC not having games from the Switch (I'm speaking about third-parties too not just Nintendo's own stuff) or, in certain cases, getting worse versions compared on console. Switch emulation works fine. > it can't play keyboard+mice games by default I don't know what this means. >there is no telling how compatibility well the games would work under the Linux OS. What do you mean "there is no telling"? There's literally a public database for exactly which games function over proton. https://www.protondb.com/
>>373945 >I'm assuming it's slightly less powerful Yep. The two devices I mentioned have slightly worse specs than the Deck and run Windows rather than an OS optimized for them, so they serve as examples of the bare minimum that the Deck supposedly will be able to do.
>>373970 Bullshit. My desktop has better specs than this piece of shit and can't emulate switch for shit (Vega 56).
>>373988 cool, but you can't buy a vega or better at the real price. pc gaming is over
rich ppl can do whatever. i guess pc is like neogeo now
>>373970 >They said they are "targeting" 30fps as an fps floor. Valve just messed up and used the wrong terminology when they should have said "30fps is the bare minimum" (which I wouldn't believe anyway as it means heat/battery issues in return), not "targeting". >Switch emulation works fine. No it does not, especially for third-parties on Switch like I mentioned before. Taiko no Tatsujin has terrible sound for example because it can stutter like crazy (even a few months ago when I wanted to check what kind of DLCs there were before I actually bought them on the japanese eshop), and I definitively remember a lot of stutters and graphic issues on many other titles (japanese version of DQ11S had everyone looking like smurfs). The emulators are also not stable so they can crash quite often or just refuse to boot a specific title. My build is a Ryzen 7 2700x, RTX 2060 and 16GB RAM btw. Switch emulation remains promising but still experimental and certainly not an alternative to the actual hardware for years to come. >I don't know what this means. Not being able to play Stronghold Crusader or Total War Warhammer on the deck until you buy the separate dock for example. Old PC games in general can be tricky with modern tech too. >There's literally a public database for exactly which games function over proton. That's cool I guess but I trust it as much as the compatibility database of console emulators, as the majority of people only test a game for one hour at best and claim it runs flawlessly afterwards.
>>373996 >Not being able to play Stronghold Crusader or Total War Warhammer on the deck until you buy the separate dock for example. I don't know why you would need a dock to play those games. >That's cool I guess but I trust it as much as the compatibility database of console emulators, as the majority of people only test a game for one hour at best and claim it runs flawlessly afterwards. Protondb literally shows how long someone has played the game for and their exact specs along with the version of proton they were using. It's incredibly reliable. >>373988 Aren't half the switch games on the wiiu too? The entire backlog of nintendos shit can be emulated even if the switch has troubles. So I guess if you really need to play a handful of shitty exclusives and can't wait a few years for emulation to catch up them you can have fun locking yourself into that software ecosystem.
>>373999 Yeah, basically. I think there are slight additions to the Switch versions as opposed to the Wii U versions.
>>373999 >>I don't know why you would need a dock to play those games. For the usb keyboard and mice in case I wasn't clear. >>Protondb literally shows how long someone has played the game for and their exact specs along with the version of proton they were using. It's incredibly reliable. oh okay my bad then >>Aren't half the switch games on the wiiu too? If you mean for first-parties, there are like only 8-9 Switch ports of WiiU games (for around 30 Nintendo games on the system so far) and some of those have improvements that make them more desirable over the original WiiU versions >Pikmin 3 Deluxe has side stories, Ultra Spicy mode, pikmin in the middle of their task will not stop when whistled unless the whistle is held for a few seconds, character switching is in the form of toggle, etc. >Zelda Musou DX All-Stars has all the content of the WiiU and 3DS versions combined in addition to new stuff >Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury has characters moving 20-30% faster >Captain Toad has more puzzle levels on Switch This is again not mentioning the massive amount of (specifically japanese) third-parties that are on Switch. People who are really into japanese games are not gonna use Playstation anymore, so they're depending a lot on Switch versions of multiplat console games.
>>373988 Don't Switch emus run like dogshit on AMD hardware because the devs prioritize Nvidia?
>>374189 Switch emus run like dogshit in general, that's because you're trying to emulate a modern console. People who say you can buy a Deck and run Yuzu on it have obviously never actually used Yuzu, there's no way it could run something like BotW above 15 FPS.
>>373999 >>374006 The only Wii U games that are not on the Switch are Xenoblade X, Devil's Third, Star Fox Zero, and Splatoon; and the only game available for both systems but is superior on the Wii U is TMS#FE. Outside of that, there's either no difference between the Wii U and Switch versions of games (Bayonetta 2, Zelda: BotW, W101, LCU) or the Switch version has more content (Hyrule Warriors, Pikmin 3, Pokken Tournament, NSMBU).
>>374209 >switch >modern console The switch is hard to emulate because it's an underdeveloped emulator. Not because the switch has modern hardware that will always require a high end machine to run.
>>374342 And, FF5 can be added to the list of Wii U games to buy because they didn't re-add the swimsuits that were in the Japanese version and removed from the American version: >>374385
Okay so IGN has Finally Released the full fucking interview about the Steam Deck I think, and not just the cut up segments. https://invidious.fdn.fr/embed/9kO6Dj2XNfY
>>375360 I hope this time the embed isn't fucked. https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=9kO6Dj2XNfY
>>375361 I don't know how to embed this shit.
>>375432 Thank you anon. hope I can remember how to do that in the future. Normally I'd just post the MP4, but this interview is 22 mins, so it's a tad too big for that.
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>>375436 >22 mins It's 27 min... i'm really retarded today. But anyway I had thought about something when it comes to the Steam Deck. Now from the get go my mind went toward playing Ninja Gaiden on this thing, the modern 3D ones obviously. But now I realized that Ninja Gaiden: Dragon Sword could be played with almost 1 to 1 controls on this thing. given that it has a touch screen, you could get one of those Touch Screen Pens, and it would be pretty damn close to how it was on the DS. and the funniest part is given that NG:DS was a game you played Sideways it would display better when Emulated on the Steam Deck then pretty much Any other DS game.
>>374189 Yes but they're getting better since unlike yuzu, ryujinks actually has it's shit together when it comes to amd.
>>375485 I tried in March and they both ran like shit. 10 fps on Mario Odyssey
Is the Amico screwed?
>>375770 It always was.
>>364900 >killed third party support for the PSP? Yes, but also no. It was both a overreaction and a cash grab. Vita was rather pricey to produce mainly because of all the extra crap in it. Just for comparison a Vita at launch costed 250$ while PSTV(which is just a VITA minus hardware minus all the extra crap) costed only 100$ and was later dropped to 50-60$. The memory cards were supposed to compensate for the high price of HW production. Also the PSP never lost third party support. It had a very healthy influx of games right up until the end of its life spam. Sony simply likes to bitch about all the "potential sales" they lost because of piracy.


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